C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

ammeter

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2019 | 06:47 PM
  #1  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default ammeter

I have a 76 Corvette,that has started to blow ammeters . I installed aluminum radiator with dual electric fans BeCool parts. I also installed a 100 amp alternator. Every time Use the car and run the fans for maybe hour I blow the ammeter.
Does any one make a heavier duty unit? Any Suggestions
Thanks
Callahan
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2019 | 08:07 PM
  #2  
DC3's Avatar
DC3
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,030
Likes: 363
From: Lubbock Texas
Default

The ammeter is connected in parallel with the charging circuit that runs from the alternator through the horn relay to the starter. A portion of the charging circuit current runs through the ammeter and the ammeter is calibrated to show the total current flowing through the entire circuit. If the ammeter is failing due to over current, it's possible your charging circuit is overloaded as well. But, if that's the case, I'm surprised you haven't blown the fusible link on the charging circuit near the starter.

It's generally recommended to upgrade the wire from the alternator to the starter when installing a larger alternator. See this recent thread for some good info: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...lternator.html There are a lot of threads on this site about ammeters that will be worth reading.

If you are not concerned about originality, consider replacing the ammeter with a voltmeter. If you want a volt meter that matches, I think I remember reading that one from a mid 70's Chevy pickup will match pretty well. Not sure if any of the C3s later than yours used a voltmeter.

DC
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 12:55 AM
  #3  
Kim72's Avatar
Kim72
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 558
Likes: 22
From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Default

There's a reasonably new VOLT meter, being sold by one of the major vendors, which matches our gauges. I don't believe they're a supporting vendor here so I won't mention their name. Do a search. Easy to find. I just installed one and it works great. IMO, it's far better info on charging system than my ammeter was. Worth the effort.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 05:53 AM
  #4  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default

Hi
Yes I blew the fusible link first . I could not find another,so I replaced it with a 30 amp in line fuse. I don't about the gauge being original in looks, just in fits in the dash. I will read the information you sent. Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 05:56 AM
  #5  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default

I will try to find it
Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 07:14 AM
  #6  
Rescue Rogers's Avatar
Rescue Rogers
Is my vette stock?? HAHA
Supporting Lifetime Gold
Veteran: Navy
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 20,034
Likes: 9,156
From: Im not allowed to tell you
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C3 of Year Winner (performance mods)
2016 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

I did the same mode as you . My meter worked for quite a while. I eventually got rid of it and went to the voltmeter because I lost the alternator belt and didn't know it. The voltmeter is a much better diagnostic tool
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 02:14 PM
  #7  
DC3's Avatar
DC3
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,030
Likes: 363
From: Lubbock Texas
Default

Originally Posted by calvette 11
Hi
Yes I blew the fusible link first . I could not find another,so I replaced it with a 30 amp in line fuse.
Sounds like you definitely need to upgrade the charging wire. Small coils of fusible link wire are generally available at most parts stores. The fusible link wire needs to be 2 wire gauges smaller than the wire it is protecting. So, if you have a 10 gauge charging wire, the fusible link would need to be 14 gauge. Likewise if you use a fuse or circuit breaker instead of a fusible link. You need them sized so that they are protecting the wire and not the other way around.

DC
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 06:47 PM
  #8  
Richard454's Avatar
Richard454
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,870
Likes: 3,544
From: Fernandina Beach FL
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

As DC said- you need to upgrade the charging wire-

The ammeter will NOT read correctly (I know you can adjust it to work) but it's easy to swap out to a voltmeter- hit the pink power wire behind the gauges and a ground -DONE.

SEVERAL guys have it for sale to match your year's gauges

This is how I would upgrade-

Larger charging cable-fuses at the battery-fans get full juice- all the stuff is readily available-

My favorite battery fuse- protects and if it blows -unlike a fusible link can be easily changed on the side of the road.

I'd use a 80A for the fans and 200 for the starter/battery cable

$20 on Amazon -fuses are $10 -20 depending who is selling them...

Amazon Amazon


Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 07:57 PM
  #9  
DC3's Avatar
DC3
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,030
Likes: 363
From: Lubbock Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Richard454
Larger charging cable-fuses at the battery-fans get full juice- all the stuff is readily available-

My favorite battery fuse- protects and if it blows -unlike a fusible link can be easily changed on the side of the road.

I'd use a 80A for the fans and 200 for the starter/battery cable

$20 on Amazon -fuses are $10 -20 depending who is selling them...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Syst...23812315&psc=1

I like the idea of fuses at the battery and I also like the fuse you've chosen. My battery is a fairly large side terminal battery so not sure I'd have room for this. I see they offer a surface mount fuse with 3 circuits which would give a place for the stereo wires I already have connected. Hmmm.

DC
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2019 | 08:10 PM
  #10  
Richard454's Avatar
Richard454
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,870
Likes: 3,544
From: Fernandina Beach FL
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

Originally Posted by DC3
I like the idea of fuses at the battery and I also like the fuse you've chosen. My battery is a fairly large side terminal battery so not sure I'd have room for this. I see they offer a surface mount fuse with 3 circuits which would give a place for the stereo wires I already have connected. Hmmm.

DC
Here you go- an easy way to convert the side posts-



Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:12 PM
  #11  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default

Thanks
I will start with the wire,today.I have ordered a 100 amp SW gauge, lt is 2 1/16 in around I will see if it can be made to fit. if not I will order a voltage
meter.I see the 78 or 79 corvette has one. If I go this route I will need to know how to connect it
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:14 PM
  #12  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default

Where can these be found?
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:40 PM
  #13  
Richard454's Avatar
Richard454
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,870
Likes: 3,544
From: Fernandina Beach FL
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

Here you go- super easy to hook up

https://www.zip-corvette.com/72-74-v...gine-swap.html



Last edited by Richard454; Aug 21, 2019 at 10:42 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 12:20 AM
  #14  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,112
From: Crossville TN
Default

A voltmeter is a poor substitute for the ammeter....IF you know how to read one properly. But, if you don't, swap to a voltmeter. It WILL tell you if the system is getting charged. But, that's about all.....
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 12:48 AM
  #15  
Richard454's Avatar
Richard454
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,870
Likes: 3,544
From: Fernandina Beach FL
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

Originally Posted by 7T1vette
A voltmeter is a poor substitute for the ammeter....IF you know how to read one properly. But, if you don't, swap to a voltmeter. It WILL tell you if the system is getting charged. But, that's about all.....
Technically it's not an ammeter it's a galvanometer and that's why the gauge just says "Battery"
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 05:47 AM
  #16  
74_stingray's Avatar
74_stingray
Burning Brakes
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 875
Likes: 289
From: LaFayette Georgia
C3 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
St. Jude Donor '19
Default

Originally Posted by Richard454
Here you go- super easy to hook up

https://www.zip-corvette.com/72-74-v...gine-swap.html

Here is one installed in my 74 Coupe along with an oil temperature gauge that replaced the clock. As Richard stated it’s super easy to hook up.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 06:35 AM
  #17  
calvette 11's Avatar
calvette 11
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 374
Likes: 4
From: decatur ga
Default

How is the hook up on the voltage meter done?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To ammeter

Old Aug 22, 2019 | 07:27 AM
  #18  
74_stingray's Avatar
74_stingray
Burning Brakes
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 875
Likes: 289
From: LaFayette Georgia
C3 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
St. Jude Donor '19
Default

Originally Posted by calvette 11
How is the hook up on the voltage meter done?
From a previous post by Richard454

Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 08:36 AM
  #19  
mrvette's Avatar
mrvette
Team Owner
Active Streak: 120 Days
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 65,492
Likes: 230
From: Orange Park Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Richard454
As DC said- you need to upgrade the charging wire-

The ammeter will NOT read correctly (I know you can adjust it to work) but it's easy to swap out to a voltmeter- hit the pink power wire behind the gauges and a ground -DONE.

SEVERAL guys have it for sale to match your year's gauges

This is how I would upgrade-

Larger charging cable-fuses at the battery-fans get full juice- all the stuff is readily available-

My favorite battery fuse- protects and if it blows -unlike a fusible link can be easily changed on the side of the road.

I'd use a 80A for the fans and 200 for the starter/battery cable

$20 on Amazon -fuses are $10 -20 depending who is selling them...

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Syst...23812315&psc=1


A voltmeter is all you need, forget that meaningless amp meter, and that wiring diagram is RONG!!!! you take that fuse/relay to the Spals directly off the alt output stud with it's own wire leaving the rest of the system alone......my '72 been wired that way for some 20 years now.....even survived an alternader failure....
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 11:46 AM
  #20  
Richard454's Avatar
Richard454
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,870
Likes: 3,544
From: Fernandina Beach FL
2023 Restomod of the Year finalist
2020 C3 of the Year Winner - Modified
Default

Originally Posted by mrvette
that wiring diagram is RONG!!!! you take that fuse/relay to the Spals directly off the alt output stud with it's own wire leaving the rest of the system alone......my '72 been wired that way for some 20 years now.....even survived an alternader failure....

Sorry- - I feel the alternator stud is not the right place to pull large amounts of current -

ESPECIALLY when the fans start up- it's a lot of juice- I've read the inrush current on the dual spals I am running are upwards of 70A-

You would NOT jumpstart a car by connecting it to the alternator...maybe once...so why hook the fans there?

Most of the time- if not all of the time- the car is idling when the fans come on- the alternator is NOT making full output- as that happens around 1500RPM(most set ups about 3:1 ratio)

Running back to the battery - stabilizes the voltage and acts as a buffer for the alternator- as when the fans turn on -the battery can easily handle the big current draw- just like when you start your car.

I'm glad it has worked for you but doesn't always mean it's the best way- but please explain why you feel my drawing/diagram is wrong.

Richard

Last edited by Richard454; Aug 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:53 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE