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I also went to the site and there is no headlight like that listed. Do you have a specific link to that headlight? Thanks and great find. Ugh! Just noticed that this is a year old thread...crap!
Last edited by Buccaneer; Jan 30, 2021 at 10:27 AM.
I'm still going to have to retain some other turn signal as the ring is not going to be that easy to see with the headlights down. I'll let you know how it goes.
I have the same exact lights and the halos are very impressive as turn signals at night.. I was not thrilled with the idea of them at first but they ended up being one of the most impressive aspects of these lights (besides better light pattern and viability). I was able to get mine to fit like factory lights as well.
I also went to the site and there is no headlight like that listed. Do you have a specific link to that headlight? Thanks and great find. Ugh! Just noticed that this is a year old thread...crap!
Or here with hids https://www.octanelighting.com/auto-lighting/headlights/5-3-4-headlights/kit5-3-4-stock-style-h4-headlight-metal-headlamp-600-set-of-4-5-3-4-up-maxtel-stock-6000k-hid-2.html
they may have stopped selling them with LEDs for the reasons I mentioned above due to returns or melting issues. This is also likely why they are sold only with the weaker lower wattage 35w HID option which puts out light comparible to a halogen bulb in brightness. But with measurements and trial and error you can find a set of leds that wont get you constantly flashed by others on the road..I did this with my truck. The trick it getting the led placement in the same spot as the halgen filiment would have been inside the reflector housing.
And not that it matters but these are NOT street legal with the hid or LED lights.. technically they are all only legal for offroad use but its not enforced (unless its annoying enough to get you pulled over and in that case you can be ticketed ).
Last edited by augiedoggy; Jan 30, 2021 at 11:02 AM.
They are all the same... when wired up they will work like factory lighting unless you rewire. they are three sided so High beam will be a similiar light focus beam to low beam except the third side gets turned on to bring it up to 24w and reflect light in the housing more from that angle. you likely have to pay attention to how the bulb is oriented when installing.
Those might work out very nice as they are only 18w in regular driving mode so they wont be so bright in those housings as the usual 25w-55w leds often sold for proper led projector style housings which in these housings would be more likely to get you flashed by others constantly. They also wont require any wiring mods since the stock bulbs were 55/100w I believe.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Jan 30, 2021 at 11:00 AM.
This topic is very complicated and there is much correct previously and much not so much!
LED bulbs are far superior to traditional sealed beams, halogens and most HID's as well in terms of lumens, light color, reduced power consumption etc.
Traditional sealed beams were 35 watts with very poor glass lense light disbursement and very yellowish color. The sealed halogens were 35 watts or 55 watt high beams. The 79 C3's were the first C3's with a 55 watt sealed halogen from the factory. The low beams remained 35 watt sealed beams back in 1979 on the C3's. The separate halogen bulbs started to show up in the late 80's once the DOT relaxed mandated US headlight lense sizes.
European Lead crystal Cibie and Hellas in the 80's were super lights and what I have had on my 78 since 1983 with 55 watt lows and 100 watts halogen highs. They are still pretty fabulous, even today.
Using LED bulbs in a traditional poor quality glass or plastic headlight will produce unwanted beam scatter not only because of the added light output of the LED bulb (sealed beams were pretty bad as well) but also as mentioned, the incorrect placement of the bulb "center" filament.
HOWEVER, headlights with projector lenses, generally, control the light disbursement MUCH better than on open faced lense and using HID conversions or LED bulbs in these housings will not cause blind beam scatter but a very narrow focused light with sharp cutoff. I have a German HID conversion HID bulbs in my chrysler 300 projectors now for 12 years and they have Zero beam scatter but produce a perfect cutoff from the stock halogen projector.
I just replaced a Chevy Cruze stock plastic open foglight lense halogens with Sylvania LEDS with zero glare and also the halogen projector headlights with aftermarket LED's through the stock halogen projector with ZERO beam scatter but perfect low beam cutoffs.
Ther short answer is much of light effect of conversions depends on a few variables but the general comments about conversions always results in blinding light is NOT true....but universally LED's/HIDs will produce 2-3 times the lumens of a halogen with half the amperage/watt draw....
Last edited by jb78L-82; Jan 31, 2021 at 01:58 PM.
This topic is very complicated and there is much correct previously and much not so much!
LED bulbs are far superior to traditional sealed beams, halogens and most HID's as well in terms of lumens, light color, reduced power consumption etc.
Traditional sealed beams were 35 watts with very poor glass lense light disbursement and very yellowish color. The sealed halogens were 35 watts or 55 watt high beams. The 79 C3's were the first C3's with a 55 watt sealed halogen from the factory. The low beams remained 35 watt sealed beams back in 1979 on the C3's. The separate halogen bulbs started to show up in the late 80's once the DOT relaxed mandated US headlight lense sizes.
European Lead crystal Cibie and Hellas in the 80's were super lights and what I have had on my 78 since 1983 with 55 watt lows and 100 watts halogen highs. They are still pretty fabulous, even today.
Using LED bulbs in a traditional poor quality glass or plastic headlight will produce unwanted beam scatter not only because of the added light output of the LED bulb (sealed beams were pretty bad as well) but also as mentioned, the incorrect placement of the bulb "center" filament.
HOWEVER, headlights with projector lenses, generally, control the light disbursement MUCH better than on open faced lense and using HID conversions or LED bulbs in these housings will not cause blind beam scatter but a very narrow focused light with sharp cutoff. I have a German HID conversion HID bulbs in my chrysler 300 projectors now for 12 years and they have Zero beam scatter but produce a perfect cutoff from the stock halogen projector.
I just replaced a Chevy Cruze stock plastic open foglight lense halogens with Sylvania LEDS with zero glare and also the halogen projector headlights with aftermarket LED's through the stock halogen projector with ZERO beam scatter but perfect low beam cutoffs.
Ther short answer is much of light effect of conversions depends on a few variables but the general comments about conversions always results in blinding light is NOT true....but universally LED's/HIDs will produce 2-3 times the lumens of a halogen with half the amperage/watt draw....
My bad on the factory wattage.. Ive had a couple cars with sealed beams and for some reason I had it in my head that the sealed beams I pulled out were 55w and 100w bulbs. As far as everything Else I agree here and this is more or less what Ive been trying to say as well. I have researched this topic quite a bit since the advent of the HID headlights years back and have installed projectors in some of my other vehicles. I also drive for a living and have been blinded by my shared of improper setups.
A chevy cruz isnt likely going to have the same textured lenses as a sealed beam, Many newer new housing are designed clear lenses with cutoffs and deflectors built in. (the bulb still works best if it replicated the halogen in length and light source for both low and high beam) This was the case with my dads 2012 f150 that I converted from halogen without changing the lenses. cutoffs or not he eventually asked me to put the old lights back in due to people flashing him. I can only assume this was because it was a stock 4x4 and the lights are higher. That said it was never an issue in my dodge ram with 7" lift and projectors with 75w HIDs. Ironically I and coworkers get flashed all the time in the last 2 stock company camrys I have been assigned and they do have projectors.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Feb 1, 2021 at 07:30 AM.
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Originally Posted by redcruz1120
Bought all four DOT approved from Octane!They fit like a glove.No modification to buckets or wiring.
I just wanted to know what the PN was for these and or a link to check these particular headlights out since they have a stock appearance. I'm assuming that is to complicated. I hate when members make a post and do not add a link that works or some other information so you can check things out for yourself, but take the time to post it. I have chased these headlights down with no luck. ANYBODY have a good link or good PN? Thank you in advance.
I just wanted to know what the PN was for these and or a link to check these particular headlights out since they have a stock appearance. I'm assuming that is to complicated. I hate when members make a post and do not add a link that works or some other information so you can check things out for yourself, but take the time to post it. I have chased these headlights down with no luck. ANYBODY have a good link or good PN? Thank you in advance.
That post was well over a year ago. and the OP gave the name of the company where he got them at the time. Those chinese leds are likely not even made anymore they are constantly changing the designs as newer leds come out..
Zakspop posted a link to their latest offering of these same housings with newer style leds bulbs. You can also just buy those housings on the octane website with halogens and replace the halogens with the led replacement bulbs as thats what Octane was doing anyway. I have very similar led replacement bulbs in my truck they are all over amazon and ebay for $20 a pair.
From: Arizona - If you don’t know CFI, STOP proliferating the myths around it...
Originally Posted by augiedoggy
That post was well over a year ago. and the OP gave the name of the company where he got them at the time. Those chinese leds are likely not even made anymore they are constantly changing the designs as newer leds come out..
Zakspop posted a link to their latest offering of these same housings with newer style leds bulbs. You can also just buy those housings on the octane website with halogens and replace the halogens with the led replacement bulbs as thats what Octane was doing anyway. I have very similar led replacement bulbs in my truck they are all over amazon and ebay for $20 a pair.
I totally get it that this is a somewhat old thread...2019. However, the fact remains the same that the posts are there with no supporting links to that part or part numbers which makes it hard to find even on the different sites to get the correct item. If the damn Chinese keep changing there product, then that sucks and also makes you wonder a bit about the product. I do appreciate your effort in providing a link though, thank you.
Last edited by Buccaneer; Feb 1, 2021 at 04:14 PM.
A chevy cruz isnt likely going to have the same textured lenses as a sealed beam, Many newer new housing are designed clear lenses with cutoffs and deflectors built in.
Actually, the cruze's OEM halogen projector mimics the beam pattern exactly with the new LED bulbs, which is my point. Even the lower quality Cruze OEM projector does a great job controlling the LED beam pattern, the same effect I got with the Chrysler 300 OEM halogen projector with true/real German HID conversion kit I installed 12 years ago on that car.
Actually, the cruze's OEM halogen projector mimics the beam pattern exactly with the new LED bulbs, which is my point. Even the lower quality Cruze OEM projector does a great job controlling the LED beam pattern, the same effect I got with the Chrysler 300 OEM halogen projector with true/real German HID conversion kit I installed 12 years ago on that car.
Well projector headlight lenses were designed to better control and focus brighter bulbs so it should stand to reason they would most often work honestly... Again its the vast majority of non projector housing that came with halogens that are more of a hit or miss scenario and in those cases its more about how well the hid or led bulb replicated the halogen bulb its replacing. My guess is the octane lighting halogen housing retrofitted with those leds would result in some pretty distracting headlights to others on the road. even the pics above taken at an angle look more like flood lights or high beams when on. (of course all 4 being on in low beam mode will get you flashed constantly either way)
Last edited by augiedoggy; Feb 1, 2021 at 10:23 PM.
They are from the same company... one link is through their ebay store and the other direct from their website. its the only option they currently advertise and the photos from the op a year ago show what appear to be the same bulbs and housings or damn close to it.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Feb 1, 2021 at 10:17 PM.
Eh...I see this thread has come back....lights I used are still very much available, still cheap, and work great. Only update I would add is I changed the wiring to all 4 lows on are on vs two in first pic. High beam will also light up on all 4 now too.
Eh...I see this thread has come back....lights I used are still very much available, still cheap, and work great. Only update I would add is I changed the wiring to all 4 lows on are on vs two in first pic. High beam will also light up on all 4 now too.
You can actually get a set of four of the lights I used which are almost the same on ebay now for $100 shipped as well... I thought about wiring mine so all four where on but read in another thread here that it could get me pulled over or at least constantly flashed by older drivers that associate 4 inline beams as high beam mode. Have you gotten any grief having yours set up that way? heres a pic I found showing the cutoff of these lights on my garage door. and a side by side comparision. a shot showing the white halos alternate to amber when a turn signal is on which I find pretty useful in the evening.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Feb 2, 2021 at 07:17 AM.
One aspect I picked up from some folks that have used LED's in the pics of the installations on C3's above is that the lights are fan cooled LED's.
You do NOT want to buy LED bulbs today that have fans for cooling. These first generation LED bulbs can be noisy (fan whirl), bulky/BIG to install, can cause radio interference, and will fail at some point, often sooner than later and then the LED bulbs overheat/burn out.
I installed FANLESS LED bulbs about 3 years ago when they first came out after much searching (I refused to buy the fan cooled LED's and still will not use them) and were VERY rare on a few of my cars. I have them on the high beam only and the fog light bulbs (Low beams are factory HID projectors) on my 2012 Lexus IS 350 F Sport, 10C6Z06 fog lights only, and the first test application at that time Chrysler 300 high beam only/daytime running lights (canbus sensitive). All of these have been on the car for about 3 years in these applications described previously and still work perfectly. They are all 2-3 X brighter than the halogen bulbs replaced.
As mentioned previously, I just replaced my daughter's 2017 Chevy Cruze's fog lights with fanless Sylvania LEDS (expensive) and her OEM halogen projectors with FANLESS Led's as well. The OEM halogen were pretty useless at night (candles, yellowish color, poor beam spread ON THE ROAD (not scatter). Presto! Lights are really good now and do NOT blind on coming traffic......
This below is an example of a FANLESS LED bulb and IMCO the only type of LED bulbs you should be using:
I have both lights with fans and without... 2 years use on the cheap $20 pair off ebay.. no issues as of yet but all things equal I agree a light with an adequate heat sink to not need the fan would be ideal. Some of the higher powered ones would be pretty bulk if designed this way though. there are no fans on my vetts leds but the heat sinks are huge blocks of finned aluminum as shown in the OPs first post.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Feb 2, 2021 at 06:10 PM.
I got this led angel eye blackout headlights about 5 years ago, I been hoarding parts for my 73 for about 10 years, I'm so close to finally getting everything, but anyways some of my friends been asking me where I got them, funny thing is that I got them on Ebay and we been looking around to get them for some of their cars, but we cant find anything even remotely close to this set and is kinda annoying cause all this new lens designs are so 90s
Last edited by amandico82; Feb 3, 2021 at 09:21 AM.
Ugh! Just noticed that this is a year old thread...crap!
