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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 08:16 PM
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So, looking for starter recommendations from my CF pals.

Car: 496 big block, 10:1 compression. XFI. Been using an Autozone Duralast Gold DLG9990S starter. This is basically the late 90's GM gear driven starter. Lasted forever on the 350 but seems to be only good for ~6 months on the big block.

Symptoms: Starter will engage and start cranking and then it seems like the pinion disengages from the flywheel. Sometimes it re-engages, sometimes not. Last time this happened, a mechanic suggested shimming the starter closer to the flywheel. That resulted in about 20 destroyed teeth and me having to pull the T-56 to get the ring gear replaced.

- Timing is set at 15 BTDC when cranking in the EFI timing map.
- Confirmed that the ring gear is not slipping on the flywheel. Had a sharpie mark on the ring gear/flywheel from install and no movement evident.
- Inspected every single tooth, turning engine over by hand. All 168 look good. No chips or wear.

I did have a Powermaster XS Torque starter sitting in the garage that I was going to install till I noticed how loose the bolts were in it. Lots of play. And then I noticed the cracked case. Calling Powermaster on Monday. Please don't recommend one.

I have heard good things about CVR. Thoughts?

Honestly, I just one to do the job once. I have a Cars and Coffee next Saturday so got a little time but plan is order something this weekend if able.

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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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I got one from DBElectric. Gear reduction small starter. Spins my 496 just fine. It'll probably die early since it was a $60 starter, but I can get several of them before it makes up the money difference for one of the big names.
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I got one from DBElectric. Gear reduction small starter. Spins my 496 just fine. It'll probably die early since it was a $60 starter, but I can get several of them before it makes up the money difference for one of the big names.
I use the same DBElectric starter for years on my 496 with zero issues.
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Tilton. Light, rebuildable, and lasts forever.
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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https://www.dbelectrical.com/product...l-inboard.html
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What happens to the starter when it fails?

The DB Electric is another version of the stock GM starter. The Duralast should have worked, unless that version is simply a piece of crap compared to the other brands..DB Electric products seem to work very well, and have great prices too.
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What happens to the starter when it fails?

The DB Electric is another version of the stock GM starter. The Duralast should have worked, unless that version is simply a piece of crap compared to the other brands..DB Electric products seem to work very well, and have great prices too.
Starter drops in and out of engagement. It is not grinding against the teeth.There is zero evidence of damage to the teeth.

Bit the bullet and ordered a Tilton. I am going to call Powermaster tomorrow about the cracked one.
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Bit the bullet and ordered a Tilton. I am going to call Powermaster tomorrow about the cracked one.
Expensive, yes, however, it's a work of art. Light as a feather.


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I run the CVR on everything.......have yet to shim one either, weird.

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I went through a bunch of stock starters and 2 mini starters with my sb427, solid roller, headers, 10.5:1 etc. Bought a summit racing starter and never had problems Agsin. I’m not sure who makes them but it was around $200 at the time.
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I think it was this one or the 3 hp version. All l the other ones simply wouldn’t turn the motor over once they got heat soaked.



1976 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Summit Racing® Protorque Starters SUM-820323-OS
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Tilton will be here tomorrow. Biggest issue will be checking pinion clearance with bellhousing (Quicktime with block plate) installed. I am not pulling the transmission just to install a starter. Anyone got any tips on that?
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
Tilton will be here tomorrow. Biggest issue will be checking pinion clearance with bellhousing (Quicktime with block plate) installed. I am not pulling the transmission just to install a starter. Anyone got any tips on that?
Hold the gear out with a screwdriver and stick and paper clip bent in a 90 degree angle to poke in between the gear mesh.....
A paper clip is about .050-.060 and is pretty close.
Very old school trick.
I believe that your previous starter was too close.

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