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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Wondering how often you folks change your brake fluid in your C3's. I got mine together 2 years ago with everything new. It sits in the garage for five or six moths unused. After two years I'm thinking I should do it before putting it up this winter. Too soon?

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Like most folk, about as often as changing auto trans fluid ... when there's other work done on system ... seldom if ever.

You can do better ... don't do as I do.

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You should always change brake fluid periodically on all cars but newer cars can go much longer...10+ years.

On your C3, you should change brake fluid every 4-5 years, at most, to avoid MC issues and more importantly, to help prevent caliper seal leaks.

How do I know?

Well, I have lip seal (NOT O-ring seals) SS VBP calipers that I put on my car in 1985 on a car that sits 99.9% of the time and is not driven in the winter for 4-5 months. I have never had a caliper leak. All I do is change the brake fluid every 4-5 years..that is it. MC is also OEM and factory original......Go figure..........

Rule of thumb Guys: Any fluid needs to be changed at some point...best example is power steering on newer cars with R&P Steering....I have 2 cars with over 200,000 miles on the racks..no leaks..I change the PS fluid every year..I know folks that replace racks constantly because they don't change the fluid...X2 for tranny fluid..even on new cars

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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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Anytime I break into the system for any other reason, which seems to end up being every 2 or 3 years or so. If I could get maybe 4 years between brake service/repair of any kind I wouldn't have a problem with waiting that long though.
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I had a 76 C10 I bought new. Drove it 30 years.
I never changed brake fluid or PS fluid.
Neither sustem ever leaked.
Your results may vary.
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I had a 76 C10 I bought new. Drove it 30 years.
I never changed brake fluid or PS fluid.
Neither sustem ever leaked.
Your results may vary.
I think most would agree that your case is unusual. On your 30 year old brake fluid, did you ever have to change the master cylinder? just curious...Thanks
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Replace all the rubber pieces and convert to DOT5 and you can forget about fluid changes.
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
I think most would agree that your case is unusual. On your 30 year old brake fluid, did you ever have to change the master cylinder? just curious...Thanks
I don't think so. Did wipe a cam lobe once. 68,000miles.
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I (partially) change my daily drivers' fluid every time I change lining. I push the fluid out the bleeder when I drive the pistons back. I use a turkey baster to suck the fluid out of the reservoir. You don't have to bleed anything using this approach. Gets most of the fluid out, takes 2 minutes and costs me $2. I used this approach on my pickup since new. It is 30 yrs old and has 343,000 miles. Never had a hydraulic issue.

On the cars I don't drive regularly, I just watch the color and suck out the fluid when it gets dark.
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Originally Posted by 69L46vert
Wondering how often you folks change your brake fluid.
Every 50 years or-so.
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
You should always change brake fluid periodically on all cars but newer cars can go much longer...10+ years.

On your C3, you should change brake fluid every 4-5 years, at most, to avoid MC issues and more importantly, to help prevent caliper seal leaks.

How do I know?

Well, I have lip seal (NOT O-ring seals) SS VBP calipers that I put on my car in 1985 on a car that sits 99.9% of the time and is not driven in the winter for 4-5 months. I have never had a caliper leak. All I do is change the brake fluid every 4-5 years..that is it. MC is also OEM and factory original......Go figure..........

Rule of thumb Guys: Any fluid needs to be changed at some point...best example is power steering on newer cars with R&P Steering....I have 2 cars with over 200,000 miles on the racks..no leaks..I change the PS fluid every year..I know folks that replace racks constantly because they don't change the fluid...X2 for tranny fluid..even on new cars
This sounds like good practical experience to me. And one would imagine that storage conditions may play a part in brake fluid longevity. I don't heat the garage where I store my car. It can get to -25F here in winter and like others, I've had some problems with some of my older cars over time with the fluid absorbing water and corroding and destroying parts like calipers and wheel cylinders. This of course is what I want to avoid. I just flushed my 10 year old Tacoma when rebuilding the calipers and the fluid didn't look all that great with some minor discoloring. The Tacoma fluid had been changed just two years ago when Toyota replaced the frame along with all the brake lines. And these C3's do seem to have more than their share of brake problems which almost always trace back to contamination in the fluid.

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Originally Posted by 69L46vert
This sounds like good practical experience to me. And one would imagine that storage conditions may play a part in brake fluid longevity. I don't heat the garage where I store my car. It can get to -25F here in winter and like others, I've had some problems with some of my older cars over time with the fluid absorbing water and corroding and destroying parts like calipers and wheel cylinders. This of course is what I want to avoid. I just flushed my 10 year old Tacoma when rebuilding the calipers and the fluid didn't look all that great with some minor discoloring. The Tacoma fluid had been changed just two years ago when Toyota replaced the frame along with all the brake lines. And these C3's do seem to have more than their share of brake problems which almost always trace back to contamination in the fluid.
Well said^^^^^!!!

I am a little surprised by the some responses that state you don't need to change brake fluid ever...REALLY?

My last thought on this issue is that ANY FLUID in an automobile will NOT last forever...period...and not changing certain fluids will have negative consequences somewhere along the operational continuum of that vehicle.

Brake fluid that is Silicone based (DOT5) does not absorb water which is the achilles heel of regular Dot 3/4 brake fluid. In other words, regular Dot 3/4 brake fluid immediately begins to deteriorate the minute the container is opened and exposed to air. This deterioration cycle continues until the brake fluid is changed the next time. These are facts, not opinion.

If folks never believe in changing brake fluid, go at it, but please do not imply to the uninformed that such action is mostly harmless to the brake system....NOT TRUE....

Not only can potentially deteriorated brake fluid cause harm to the brake system components like the hoses, calipers, seals, master cylinder etc but there is a definite performance loss in the brake system operation as the fluid deteriorates with dirt and water overtime including brake pedal feel, brake pressure application, brake fate resistance when hot, and the risk of complete brake failure.

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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
Well said^^^^^!!!

I am a little surprised by the some responses that state you don't need to change brake fluid ever...REALLY?

My last thought on this issue is that ANY FLUID in an automobile will NOT last forever...period...and not changing certain fluids will have negative consequences somewhere along the operational continuum of that vehicle.

Brake fluid that is Silicone based (DOT5) does not absorb water which is the achilles heel of regular Dot 3/4 brake fluid. In other words, regular Dot 3/4 brake fluid immediately begins to deteriorate the minute the container is opened and exposed to air. This deterioration cycle continues until the brake fluid is changed the next time.

If folks never believe in changing brake fluid, go at it, but please do not imply to the uninformed that such action is mostly harmless to the brake system....
I have a 77 Jeep that I rebuilt in 92. All lines, M/C, wheel cylinders, 100% new lines. Everything new. Never even opened the M/C after rebuild. Simply neglected it. A few years ago brakes went soft. Upon inspection, M/C, all 4 wheel cylinders and one rear brake line were all junk. Fluid Brown/black and lumpy. Rusted beyond repair. Had to change almost everything again. Just the way it is. Always garage kept but maybe if I kept the garage heated it would have lasted longer. I'm certain the same thing would happen with the Corvette given enough time.
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Oh I have seen the result of neglected brake fluid. My 70 GTO sat undriven for an unknown amount of years before I rebuilt the drivetrain and brakes. The car drove and stopped okay before I tore into it. But when I opened the brake cylinders up (drum brakes all around) they had clumps of corrosion that I had to chisel out before I could hone them. I rebuilt them just for the experience but really should have replaced them. Brake fluid is hydrosopic and absorbs moisture which in turn attacks the steels on the inside.
I think the recommended change interval is like only 2 or 3 years but who the can find that much time? In my personal requirement 5 years would be good enough.

Now you can flush the lines and system with denatured alcohol but that would be overkill for most of us and all I do flush out the discolored fluid with my Motive Power Bleeder until each bleed has clear new fluid coming out. Works great for me.

Good luck.
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I think it’s gonna depend on two things primarily. Humidity in your area and how much heat the fluid has been exposed to, ie heavy brake usage.
more of either of these is going to degrade the fluid.
mositure In the fluid will also rust internal components, particularly the low spots in the system ie wheel cylinders.
when racing motorcycles I changed the fluid often as it burned and turned dark from excessive heat making the brakes softer.
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im a fleet mechanic and maintain 300 plus pieces of small equipment and 45 light/heavy trucks, what i have learned through the years is maintenance is very important and most people only do it when the equipment/vehicle is broke. i recommend a brake fluid flush every 2 years.
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Originally Posted by 69L46vert
Wondering how often you folks change your brake fluid in your C3's.
Never....I have been running the same brand for 30 years.

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Never....I have been running the same brand for 30 years.

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For the lazy types like me gravity bleeding is so easy that changing the fluid isn't that bad. As long as the bleeders aren't frozen shut by corrosion or gunk of course. On this subject, how many have tried using silicon fluid and was it worth the effort? How different is the braking experience - i.e. does the brake pedal have a noticeable softness to it while braking compared to Dot 3/4?
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Originally Posted by cardo0
Oh I have seen the result of neglected brake fluid. My 70 GTO sat undriven for an unknown amount of years before I rebuilt the drivetrain and brakes. The car drove and stopped okay before I tore into it. But when I opened the brake cylinders up (drum brakes all around) they had clumps of corrosion that I had to chisel out before I could hone them. I rebuilt them just for the experience but really should have replaced them. Brake fluid is hydrosopic and absorbs moisture which in turn attacks the steels on the inside.
I think the recommended change interval is like only 2 or 3 years but who the can find that much time? In my personal requirement 5 years would be good enough.

Now you can flush the lines and system with denatured alcohol but that would be overkill for most of us and all I do flush out the discolored fluid with my Motive Power Bleeder until each bleed has clear new fluid coming out. Works great for me.

Good luck.
Do you still have your ‘70 GTO?
I traded mine for a ‘66 Nova SS about 40 years ago. Still grieving for both of them. LOL
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