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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:59 PM
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I'm re doing my old Turbocharged Engine I built in the mid 1980's that's been sitting around since I built a replacement. I'm building a conventual higher compression SBC 350 for Autocross and I'm trying to both keep the costs down and use up a bunch of parts I have laying around. So I need to replace the Pistons to get the Compression up. New Pistons can be had that are much lighter than the ones I'm removing. I have a set off H beam 6" Rods laying around that are old enough to still be in the Heavy era Rod era that I would like to use. So, according to my Postal Scale I can have a New Piston Pin and Ring package that weighs 650 Grams and still keep the total Weight of the Piston-Rod combo the same or less than what I have now. Yes I realize that I am going to have to re balance the Rotating Assembly, but I'm trying to avoid adding weight to the Crank. I thinking that rather than spending a lot on a heavy metal balance job I'd be better off buying lighter Rods.
Ok so here is my question. When it comes to balancing can I just subtract the new Piston- Rod Combo from the old, and as long as it is less, then a less expensive removal of weight from the Crank can be done rather than adding weight ? Or is it not that simple ?
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 11:38 PM
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Read this article and pay attention to the table

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp...ine-balancing/

this article too

http://www.neponsetvalleymachine.com...balancing.html

from that, you can see how the simple formula works ... and how you can accurately compare what was balanced to what you want to swap in.

You'll need a scale with accuracy & precision within 1 gram.

here's a decent example of a bobweight table

If your old bobweight is heavier than you new bobweight, Shop can probably lighten crank by drilling/cutting ... if old BW is lighter than new BW, then Shop adds metal

but use the tables formulae ... it's Not simple what is a rod's total weight ... it's big end weight & little end weight and then a percentage.

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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 02:50 AM
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Call Mike at QMP racing in Chatsworth Ca he will give it to you straight. Nice guy does real high end chit
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Thanx for the heads up. Interesting Link.
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One potential problem is that most 6 inch rods are made for radius ground cranks.
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You need to do the bobweight sheet then have the crank spun on a balancer to know for sure.
Chances are that if the piston is much lighter you will only have to drill it.....
Take your pieces to a reputable shop and have the sheet done and crank spun up.
If they tell you that you need mallory.....compare the price per slug to a new set of rods.
Additionally, if you are staying under 7000rpm and 600 horspower....any of the newer Eagle or Scat I-beam rods are much lighter and a LOT stronger than people give credit for. Do not hesitate to purchase a set....they can be had for about $250 a set.
Trying to make old stuff work is more work than it is worth sometimes......but if you have a high dollar old school crank.....it might be worth it. But consder that a premium rotating assembly balanced, ready to go with rings and bearing can be had for $2000 these days.

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