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Old May 20, 2020 | 03:27 PM
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When I want to stop the crank from turning to take off crank accessories I use rope in the spark plug hole.

you should be able to run the engine and see if the pulley or harmonic balancer is wobbling. I'm thinking IF this is the problem that it's striking the timing chain cover as it rotates? Or the pulley is wobbling striking the balancer and making the noise?

We've eliminated all accessories as suspects by removing belts.

I would temporarily remove the flexplate/torque converter sheet metal guard just to eliminate that as a source.

A main bearing is usually a grumbling deep down sound vs a knock or tick, so it sounds like that's out.

seems to keep coming back to valve train if it's not crank related.

This engine was rebuilt so... what if the cam sprocket is coming loose? I've never hear that sound, but WTH we got noting to lose.
And if you go there make sure the chain is not all stretched out and slapping the timing cover.

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Maybe the rubber on the harmonic balancer is shot, causing the ring to knock/rattle.

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Originally Posted by Jebbysan
The inner dampers can be hard to see.....the only real way to check them is to pull the retainer and lock.......not a terrible job if you have the air adapter for your spark plug hole.
I have disassembled engines in the past where these were broken.
I'm going to check that tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Chuck72
Maybe the rubber on the harmonic balancer is shot, causing the ring to knock/rattle.

I'm going to check that tomorrow.
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Old May 20, 2020 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by REELAV8R
I would temporarily remove the flexplate/torque converter sheet metal guard just to eliminate that as a source.
This engine was rebuilt so... what if the cam sprocket is coming loose? I've never hear that sound, but WTH we got noting to lose.
And if you go there make sure the chain is not all stretched out and slapping the timing cover.
I have already tried to separate the flexplate / torque converter, but that had no effect.
I'm going to check the cam sprocket and the chain.

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Old May 20, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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Dumbazz here, but only way I KNOW to check flexplate for crack(s) is unbolt converter and pull flexplate out & inspect ... may have to pull trans aft/back to get flexplate out. Sometimes you can see the crack without pulling it, sometimes Not. Flexplates are cheap.

Also, as said, a busted spring's inner Damper as well ... Springs are even cheaper.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jebbysan
The inner dampers can be hard to see.....the only real way to check them is to pull the retainer and lock.......not a terrible job if you have the air adapter for your spark plug hole.
I have disassembled engines in the past where these were broken.

Jebby
The inner dampers are all good.



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Old May 22, 2020 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck72
Maybe the rubber on the harmonic balancer is shot, causing the ring to knock/rattle.
The harmonic balancer is in very good condition.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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Old May 22, 2020 | 09:15 AM
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Something is dying, all the usual suspects have been interviewed, Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple have been pondering, but no definite suspect has been found.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KenSny
Reading this thread is like reading an Agatha Christie mystery.
Something is dying, all the usual suspects have been interviewed, Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple have been pondering, but no definite suspect has been found.
OP is Niederlander ... Poirot is Belgian ... perhaps OP's domiciled near Bruges ?
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Old May 22, 2020 | 04:59 PM
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Old May 22, 2020 | 06:22 PM
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Colonel Mustard did it! He used a rolling pin on the rod bearing...
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Old May 22, 2020 | 07:14 PM
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I have to ask. Have you tried torquing the header bolts? Looked for leaks?
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Old May 24, 2020 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
I have to ask. Have you tried torquing the header bolts? Looked for leaks?
Yes I did that with new gaskets.
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Old May 24, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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I know asking another exhaust question is beating a dead horse but,
How old are the headers?
Could there be a spot that has burned through?
Especially looking at the inside welds and where the primary tubes connect at the flanges and collectors?
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Originally Posted by OldCarBum
I know asking another exhaust question is beating a dead horse but,
How old are the headers?
Could there be a spot that has burned through?
Especially looking at the inside welds and where the primary tubes connect at the flanges and collectors?
The exhaust manifolds and the exhaust pipe are made of stainless steel and half a year old.
I checked the exhaust on a bridge and there are absolutely no leaks.
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Old May 26, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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Thank you all for the comments and tips.
Unfortunately, the problem is not resolved.
I am going to remove and disassemble the block until I find the problem.
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Old May 26, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette 1977
Thank you all for the comments and tips.
Unfortunately, the problem is not resolved.
I am going to remove and disassemble the block until I find the problem.
Good luck and Keep us posted with your findings ... this is about the longest dead-end road I can recall "traveling."
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Old May 27, 2020 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jackson
Good luck and Keep us posted with your findings ...
Thank you, as soon as I know more I will let you know.
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