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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 04:34 PM
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Can someone explain to me how a quadrajet works? I don't understand how my secondary is supposed to open?I replaced fuel filter and I think I'm not getting enough fuel cause I can't floor it or give it more than half throttle in all gears. If I do the car starts shaking I just dont whats not working. It doesn't seem like it will open with vaccuum.

If anyone is near northern VA and can help i got a nice ribeye and some beer if they can help me understand.

I appreciate it. Been learning on this car. Never had a carbed motor before



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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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E-mail a fellow name of Lars at V8fastcars@msn.com . No one understands them more.
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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 04:54 PM
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Push your finger down on it......on the secondary air flaps.....do they open freely and snap shut with a slight spring load? Did you post in the C3 page about this on FB? If so, I am the one who told you to stick a filter in it first.
E-Mail Lars as stated above......have him send you his papers and read them all....tell him what is going on. You need to properly set timing before you do anymore investigating as well.....

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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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Push your finger down on it......on the secondary air flaps.....do they open freely and snap shut with a slight spring load? Did you post in the C3 page about this on FB? If so, I am the one who told you to stick a filter in it first.
E-Mail Lars as stated above......have him send you his papers and read them all....tell him what is going on. You need to properly set timing before you do anymore investigating as well.....

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yup I replaced the fuel filter, the one in it was clean but I replaces it. It's been a bunch of things here lately. Found out I needed new rear calipers, pads and rotor. Got all taken apart bought a new "brake line" that I was told I needed lol. It was the flex line that connects to the caliper hard line. So now I need that aswell. I appreciate yalls help. I thought I emailed Lars, guess I forgot from work stuff.
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what you were pointing at is the choke pull off. Push it in and watch the linkage its attached to move, then open the choke valve while you have it pushed in and see what other linkage moves behind that black plastic disc which is your choke. In your pic theres a tip of a rod (secondairies rod) with a post through it. That will have a swinging arm that prevents it from moving. When the car is running you will see choke pull off pull on that linkage which will allow the choke to open once it gets to the required heat setting. When the motor is cold there is a small lever that holds the secondaires closed. If you look on the drivers side you can see the lever that travels through the carb Secondaireies and see that it is spring loaded. When you move the throttle, the lever for the secondairies will move but only the spring will twist until that lever on the other side is out of the way. if you find the lever for the choke on the passenger side, you can hold it open manually, open the choke valve, then flip your thottle and see the bottom valves move. You have to manually open the top flap and hold it open to see the lower valves open. the top opens with the air flow when the air is drawn in.
Here is a video of a different style choke pulloff on a quadrajjet but you will see that lever that I was trying to explain. If someone messed with it or the choke pull off is bad it wont release


Now if you have everything connected correctly, and the choke works and with the engine hot you can see that the secondairies are working, you may be experiencing the quadrajet bog. Its what happens when that secondairy air flap open too quickly and your car runs lean all of a sudden. there is an adjustment for that doors spring to make it resist openning too quickly. But make sure your choke is functioning correctly first before messing with the flap

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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rescue Rogers
what you were pointing at is the choke pull off. Push it in and watch the linkage its attached to move, then open the choke valve while you have it pushed in and see what other linkage moves behind that black plastic disc which is your choke. In your pic theres a tip of a rod (secondairies rod) with a post through it. That will have a swinging arm that prevents it from moving. When the car is running you will see choke pull off pull on that linkage which will allow the choke to open once it gets to the required heat setting. When the motor is cold there is a small lever that holds the secondaires closed. If you look on the drivers side you can see the lever that travels through the carb Secondaireies and see that it is spring loaded. When you move the throttle, the lever for the secondairies will move but only the spring will twist until that lever on the other side is out of the way. if you find the lever for the choke on the passenger side, you can hold it open manually, open the choke valve, then flip your thottle and see the bottom valves move. You have to manually open the top flap and hold it open to see the lower valves open. the top opens with the air flow when the air is drawn in.
Here is a video of a different style choke pulloff on a quadrajjet but you will see that lever that I was trying to explain. If someone messed with it or the choke pull off is bad it wont release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwX06-3LV8


Now if you have everything connected correctly, and the choke works and with the engine hot you can see that the secondairies are working, you may be experiencing the quadrajet bog. Its what happens when that secondairy air flap open too quickly and your car runs lean all of a sudden. there is an adjustment for that doors spring to make it resist openning too quickly. But make sure your choke is functioning correctly first before messing with the flap

Yeah I searched youtube up and down for hours trying to understand. I got a grasp kinda. I have a buddy who is going to help me diagnose this beast. Also he said I should use some seafoam in the carb and remove the line from the brKe booster and suck in a bottle of seafoam let the car die wait 30 mins then drive the hell out of it.
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Oh, gawd.... No wonder these cars and carbs are so screwed up. I'm going to the Studebaker Forum. Deleted my post above - pointless.

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Originally Posted by lars
Oh, gawd.... No wonder these cars and carbs are so screwed up. I'm going to the Studebaker Forum.
Maybe Packard!
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Originally Posted by lars
Oh, gawd.... No wonder these cars and carbs are so screwed up. I'm going to the Studebaker Forum.
Reason the cars all screwed up is it had been driven for 2000 miles in the past 12 years. And not taken care of. Not 1 oil change, or any other maintenance from what I've been told.
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 10:24 PM
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Magic elixer. Thats the ticket. It rebuilds itself.
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I am not an advocate of snake oils.......even if you do have something in the carb bowl, breaking it up with a product is just going to make **** worse. Sucking it in the engine will do absolutely nothing but make you think you achieved something....which you won't. It is right up there with the Tornado, Slick 50 and E3 spark plugs.

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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
Oh, gawd.... No wonder these cars and carbs are so screwed up. I'm going to the Studebaker Forum. Deleted my post above - pointless.
Hello, I have an R4 Lark and want to bolt the R3 supercharger on it......what do I need to do?

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The carb is really gunked up and needs a rebuilt to fly right. Email Lars and see what his availability is.
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This is a properly working Quadrajet. If you watch the video frame by frame you can see exactly how it works. Adjustments are fairly easy to get the secondaries functioning as they should... The tension on the secondaries spring needs to be adjusted with the engine off and so they bounce open and shut with a light touch of a finger...
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bigvette1
The carb is really gunked up and needs a rebuilt to fly right. Email Lars and see what his availability is.
I've talked to him a little, wantes to actually get it running right before I ship it. Were on opposite side of the country. Thanks guys.
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