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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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Is it easier to install a sb with a manual transmission all together or install it separately
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 07:30 PM
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if you have four or more hands, it's easier together; otherwise separately.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 07:46 PM
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I find it easier together. No contest
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 08:22 PM
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I installed my BB and Muncie transmission in my 68 together and did it by myself. It’s best to have an engine leveler. So, yes it can be done with a SB too.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sullyman56
I installed my BB and Muncie transmission in my 68 together and did it by myself. It’s best to have an engine leveler. So, yes it can be done with a SB too.
Did you folks have a tough time getting the radiator back in? If soo, do you have any tips?
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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Dumb question here, but I thought most, if not all C3's had a fixed frame crossmember for the transmission mount. I don't see how you can install an entire engine/transmission assy if the crossmember is not removable.

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Did you folks have a tough time getting the radiator back in? If soo, do you have any tips?
Installing the radiator is something I did get help with. I covered the radiator with cardboard to prevent damage to the fins during installation and it went in without much difficulty.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 09:19 AM
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Dumb question here, but I thought most, if not all C3's had a fixed frame crossmember for the transmission mount. I don't see how you can install an entire engine/transmission assy if the crossmember is not removable.
When I did mine as an assembly, I used an engine leveler with the engine and transmission at an angle. As I lowered it I slowly leveled it as I guided the tail of the transmission into the transmission tunnel. Once it was further in I had the engine just above it’s mounts. At that point the transmission mount was very close to the mounting bracket on the crossmember. From there it was easy to lower the engine into the motor mounts and put the bolts in and get under the car and lift the transmission a little to install the exhaust pipe bracket and then put the bolts into the transmission. From start to finish it took less than 1 hour.
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Originally Posted by sullyman56
When I did mine as an assembly, I used an engine leveler with the engine and transmission at an angle. As I lowered it I slowly leveled it as I guided the tail of the transmission into the transmission tunnel. Once it was further in I had the engine just above it’s mounts. At that point the transmission mount was very close to the mounting bracket on the crossmember. From there it was easy to lower the engine into the motor mounts and put the bolts in and get under the car and lift the transmission a little to install the exhaust pipe bracket and then put the bolts into the transmission. From start to finish it took less than 1 hour.
Thanks for the clear explanation, Sully.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Just for fun I'll present a dissenting opinion. I tried to install my engine and transmission as a unit many years ago and gave up. I simply couldn't get the car high enough in my garage, nor could I get enough travel in my engine hoist to make everything work. Since then I have always installed the engine first, then the transmission. Admittedly that is much easier with the Tremec than it was with the automatics.
As for the radiator installation, I put the rad shroud in place in front of the engine, slip the rad in, bolt them up, and then install the fan blade.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 7t9l82
I find it easier together. No contest

It drops in as an assembled unit in less than 10 minutes, working by yourself. I just use a tranny jack to get the tranny tailhousing up over the fixed crossmember as the assembly drops in, with the car sitting on the ground. Here is one I did not long ago with a Tremec tranny on it, which is bigger and longer than the stock Muncie. Engine goes in with all accessories pre-mounted, and this one has a supercharger on it, too:










Engine in the car and on the engine mounts. Just under 10 minutes:



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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lars

It drops in as an assembled unit in less than 10 minutes, working by yourself. I just use a tranny jack to get the tranny tailhousing up over the fixed crossmember as the assembly drops in, with the car sitting on the ground. Here is one I did not long ago with a Tremec tranny on it, which is bigger and longer than the stock Muncie. Engine goes in with all accessories pre-mounted, and this one has a supercharger on it, too:

Engine in the car and on the engine mounts. Just under 10 minutes:



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I am so jealous!! You're obviously not working with a cherry picker and my eight foot ceiling. (And you probably do it more often than once every few years.) Nice job.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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After doing some digging, I decided to pull my 327 & Muncie out of my 68 together by myself.

I jacked up the rear some and took the wheels off the front and lowered to get an angle to make it easier to remove. Load leveler and 2 ton Harbor Freight engine lift (to get the reach needed from the side) did the trick.

One reason I pulled together is I needed to do some Muncie work plus I could not figure out a good way to support Muncie or the 327 if you pulled them separate.

Hope this helps. Some great videos out there too.
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