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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:21 PM
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Default 350 no fire on 4 cylinders.

when my 72 runs like **** I can pull every other plug wire off the cap and notice no difference in running but when i put the wire back on I can hear the spark jump.Have a msd6a on it. Any suggestions? 350
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when my 72 runs like **** I can pull every other plug wire off the cap and notice no difference in running but when i put the wire back on I can hear the spark jump.Have a msd6a on it. Any suggestions? 350
if I have to guess, firing order in plugs is wrong
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:45 PM
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ya don't have to remove the box yet, but take the box out of the loop and run ignition as OE.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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Order is ok, will take the box out tomorrow and see. You think that's the probable cause?
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Seems to happen when its hot and run for a while.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:56 PM
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JMO if not probable, certainly plausible. They do puke
If ya truly NEED a CD box on a street car, likely carb & rest of ignition could use some help first. JMO YMMV
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 07:50 PM
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Did you remove the cap and check the contacts and the rotor?
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Did you remove the cap and check the contacts and the rotor?
Check wires and connection too.
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If it is an old 6AL......look on the side and see of the cylinder disconnect wires are corroded or cut......these are clipped when running a 4 or 6 cylinder......these are on the soft touch disc on the side of the unit.....

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Sounds like a clogged jet or passage in the carburetor. Each plenum of a dual-plane manifold feeds alternate cylinders.

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If the 4 non-firing cylinders are all on one side of the engine, problem is with the carb or the intake manifold / gasket. Otherwise, distributor cap is the likely culprit.

(Assumed that you were already checking out the spark box...)
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On a std dual plane, SBC Intake Manifold:

Drivers side carb butterflies & Intake ports feed cylinders; 1-4-6-7
On the passengers side of carb, they are fed to cyl; 2-3-5-8
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Originally Posted by HeadsU.P.
On a std dual plane, SBC Intake Manifold:

Drivers side carb butterflies & Intake ports feed cylinders; 1-4-6-7
On the passengers side of carb, they are fed to cyl; 2-3-5-8
Yup. This engine either has a fuel-delivery problem on one primary venturi, or a large vacuum leak that's only leaning out one plenum of the dual-plane intake manifold. It's almost certainly something clogged in the carburetor. A rebuild of the carb should solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by formor2go
when my 72 runs like **** I can pull every other plug wire off the cap and notice no difference in running but when i put the wire back on I can hear the spark jump.Have a msd6a on it. Any suggestions? 350
is the box set to run the correct amount of cylinders?
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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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IIRC
6AL has cylinder select loops

IIRC
6A does not

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regardless, 6 box may've puked

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Originally Posted by SJW
Yup. This engine either has a fuel-delivery problem on one primary venturi, or a large vacuum leak that's only leaning out one plenum of the dual-plane intake manifold. It's almost certainly something clogged in the carburetor. A rebuild of the carb should solve the problem.

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Only if those four cylinders mentioned coincide with your four cylinders issue.
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Originally Posted by HeadsU.P.
Only if those four cylinders mentioned coincide with your four cylinders issue.
OP said:

"I can pull every other plug wire off the cap and notice no difference in running but when i put the wire back on I can hear the spark jump."

So it's missing on every other cylinder and he's getting spark to the dead cylinders.

It's either running on 1, 4, 6 & 7 and missing on 8, 3, 5 & 2, or it's running on 8, 3, 5 & 2 and missing on 1, 4, 6 & 7. He hasn't told us which four are missing, but that'll be the clue to which side of the carburetor or intake will have the fault. My bet's on a clogged jet or passage in the carb.

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Mine just did the same thing, Was bad sparkplug wires
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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 10:46 PM
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MSD al6 boxes like to run with a full 12 volt from a dedicated line from the battery if the battery is low or theres corrosion it will mess with the box ,, make sure everything is tight
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Also can't be fed (properly) with the factory 'resistance' wire.
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