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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 04:47 PM
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One of my half shafts broke off today. Are there any stronger ones available? Are the stock ones a weak point? Thanks.
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The 1/2 shaft broke or the u-joint in the shaft broke OR the axle in the diff broke?

1/2 shafts don't usually break unless from very extreme abuse. U-joints, especially zerked ones, will snap in 1/2 usually at the trailing arm. If you have an original 79 diff then the axles were bad from day one.
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Stock half-shafts will break if the engine is putting out more than 500hp, the rear tires are very wide and sticky, and the rear suspension isn't properly upgraded to handle that level of torque and grip. Mostly on dead-start take-offs which generate a lot of wheel hop. That creates high stress shock-loading pulses that just destroy the shafts.

You should do more than just buy beefier shafts, if you are creating wheel hop condition....
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I've been using these for a couple years now on my cars.

https://fortwayneclutch.com/product/...350_1-2sh3x95/
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Tom's has the strongest shaft. Those shown are stock 3 x 095. Tom's are 3.5 x 134" HOWEVER- the weak link is not the tube it is the yoke and joint. We broke a Tom's shaft when the solid spicer sheared and destroyed the yoke, the shaft is fine. Sounds like there are more issues at play here as 7T1 mentioned.
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Well here is the whole story, yesterday I went out for a drive. When I was pulling into my neighborhood, I thought I'd kick her sideways. Instead of tire squeal, I heard a BANG then thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud. I pulled over, and the half shaft was laying on the ground. It looks like it snapped from the U joint and the wheel. I'll replace both half shafts, and everything that goes with them I'll probably move to a composite spring leaf as well. Who knows what the diff looks like. I'll have a look in there when I get to it. I'm at work right now, when I get home I'll take some pictures of the half shaft. The car is at my buddies house who has an industrial lift.

1979 4 spd L48 ~300hp crank.
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The stock shafts should be able to handle that amount of load...shock or not. But, we don't know what condition the shafts were in, being 40+ years old, etc.

If you can put up some good close-up pics of the damaged half shaft, maybe we can diagnose 'how' it failed and where the point of failure initiation might be.
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Here is the shaft, I dont have access to the car today
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Upgraded strength 1/2 axles are available. For instance, 3 1/2 inch diameter, 0.095 inch wall thickness. The do require larger U-joints, 4 1/2 inch width, 1 3/8 inch cup sizes. I'd guess these upgraded azles are available from CF suspension vendors.
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That is from abuse, maybe not by you but the car was beat up. The inner u-joint sheared, the outer axle snapped you still have the axle nut on the end of the axle?

The 1/2 shaft is not the cause. You are going to need to rebuild the trailing arms and look at the diff for internal damage. You are going to learn a lot about vette IRS now.

What power, trans, traction and use do you have? If the power is around 500hp that will do it with some launches, if it's the stock 200hp or so motor with automatic the car was flogged badly.

You should be able to look through the flange


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Yep. U-joint failed in fatigue. Finally snapped and the shaft was left spinning on the backside of the wheel...until that battering broke out most of the spines in the hub.

That joint has passages to allow grease fitting and pressure lube. The passages actually weaken the part; but when used normally, there would be no problem. If you put power thru the U-joints regularly, it would be better to use joints without zerk fittings and lube passages, as they are stronger.
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Yep. U-joint failed in fatigue. Finally snapped and the shaft was left spinning on the backside of the wheel...until that battering broke out most of the spines in the hub.

That joint has passages to allow grease fitting and pressure lube. The passages actually weaken the part; but when used normally, there would be no problem. If you put power thru the U-joints regularly, it would be better to use joints without zerk fittings and lube passages, as they are stronger.
One day I plan on putting in a sbc 396 from blueprint engines. 485/510 motor. That is why I want to upgrade right now, for power in the future. Will stock, non greasable half shafts work? or should I get the larger ones that were mentioned above?
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I guess I am speaking Chinese, signing off.
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