Mini starter issues
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Mini starter issues
I have an 81 corvette, I had a 2 amp draw on my battery that would drain it all the time. After trying to figure out what the draw was I finally disconnected the starter wires and the draw went to 0. Thinking it was the starter I Bought a new mini starter and still have the same issue. Im thinking I wired up the first mini starter wrong after replacing the original gm starter. I have the ignition wire and battery cable correct. But the red ones and the black ones im not sure? Im thinking the two red wires goes with the battery cable (top post) and the black two wires are ground? 1st I connected the two black wires with the battery cable on starter and left the two red off and the starter just spins would not engage. Left the two black ones off and put the two reds with the battery cable and car would not do anything? I put both the reds with the blacks with the battery cable and it still just spins? (Thats how I connected with the first mini starter, I'm thinking this was causing the battery drain?.) Has anyone wired up a mini starter on a 81 with the same wire config? Thanks in advance!
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The 2 connected RED wires after the White Plastic Capsules are your fuse links. They should connect to the battery post (top post of solenoid) So you were correct there.
Not sure why there are 2 black wires connected together but that should be a ground and bolted to a lower bell housing bolt or the starter mounting bolt. But the bell housing was the original mounting location.
Not sure why there are 2 black wires connected together but that should be a ground and bolted to a lower bell housing bolt or the starter mounting bolt. But the bell housing was the original mounting location.
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The 2 connected RED wires after the White Plastic Capsules are your fuse links. They should connect to the battery post (top post of solenoid) So you were correct there.
Not sure why there are 2 black wires connected together but that should be a ground and bolted to a lower bell housing bolt or the starter mounting bolt. But the bell housing was the original mounting location.
Not sure why there are 2 black wires connected together but that should be a ground and bolted to a lower bell housing bolt or the starter mounting bolt. But the bell housing was the original mounting location.
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Here is a shot of my 79 with the 2 black wires..
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-starting.html
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-starting.html
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Here is a shot of my 79 with the 2 black wires..
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-starting.html
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-starting.html
Maybe the 2nd one goes to the temp sensor connector in block?
Good Clear Photo of mounting location
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I’ll try the Two reds to starter and blacks to ground. But After testing it last night the Two reds are what’s causing my two amp draw?
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Not sure exactly what you are asking, but It's unlikely someone is going to be able to solve that problem for you over the internet. Simply too many variables. You need to get yourself a wiring diagram for your car and start doing some troubleshooting. Are you comfortable using a multimeter?
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Yes I do know how to use a meter. And yes I realize there is other variables involve with the amp draw. I was merely stating the red wires were causing my issues. That’s why I said I would try wiring it the way the first three helpful guys explained and see what happens. Didn’t mean to offend you with my statement.
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on earlier models, and yours is probably the same all the cars power goes to the starter. the 2 red wires travel from the starter up to the fuse block and the horn relay. They actually supply power to the rest of the car Get a wiring diagram and make sure which wire goes where. Then discoonect them on that end. I have found issues in the horn relay and for one member, he had a short in a light. When we disconnected the light bulb his short went away. That was a weird issue.
THe easiest way to track it down is going to be to disconnect your positive cable at the battery. Then connect a multimeter beween the positive post and cable. set it up for amperage and yo will see your draw. then disconnect all the fuses one at a time until the draw disappears. if that doesnt do it start disconnecting anything that completes a circuit like light bulbs, the horns, the horn relay, etc. You will find it and it will mot likelybe something that you wouldnt expect
THe easiest way to track it down is going to be to disconnect your positive cable at the battery. Then connect a multimeter beween the positive post and cable. set it up for amperage and yo will see your draw. then disconnect all the fuses one at a time until the draw disappears. if that doesnt do it start disconnecting anything that completes a circuit like light bulbs, the horns, the horn relay, etc. You will find it and it will mot likelybe something that you wouldnt expect
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If you suspect your starter extension harness, you can get a new one from any of the vendors. $80 spent there may save you some debugging. My two fusable links had burned off all of their insulation.
Otherwise, you need to methodically go through your fuses with an ammeter on your battery and determine what circuit has the power drain.
Otherwise, you need to methodically go through your fuses with an ammeter on your battery and determine what circuit has the power drain.
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Yes I do know how to use a meter. And yes I realize there is other variables involve with the amp draw. I was merely stating the red wires were causing my issues. That’s why I said I would try wiring it the way the first three helpful guys explained and see what happens. Didn’t mean to offend you with my statement.
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Think of a parasitic draw- as a several water hoses running through out your car-and one has a leak.
You have just disconnected the hose that's leaking.
2A of current is a lot of draw- what is drawing the power is a circuit that is wired hot all the time.
I'm not a betting man- but I'd put my money on the alternator- as those wire go right to the alt.
The other possibility is it could be the courtesy light circuit- that can be checked by removing the fuse.
Richard
You have just disconnected the hose that's leaking.
2A of current is a lot of draw- what is drawing the power is a circuit that is wired hot all the time.
I'm not a betting man- but I'd put my money on the alternator- as those wire go right to the alt.
The other possibility is it could be the courtesy light circuit- that can be checked by removing the fuse.
Richard
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I appreciate all the advice, pictures and help! After wiring the two reds to the top post and connect the black ground wires to bell housing everything is good. There draw is also gone. I believe before I had the ground wires connected to the bottom post of the 1st mini starter I put on and that must of created the draw. I’m kinda glad I didn’t take pictures and couldn’t remember how I had it wired since it took a few days for the new starter to come in. I probably would of wired it back the same way and still had my draw. I had already checked the alternator and pulled fuses to check the draw. I would of been checking all my wires after that! Again thanks for all the help!! She’s ready to get back on the road and now I want have to take off the ground wire on the battery every time!!
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