Bleeding brakes






I have bench bled the MC before but I found something new, for me. As you push in on the plunger it compresses the first spring and you feel some resistance. I thought this was the end of the stroke. I found that it will press farther in when the second spring compresses. Knowing this will help a lot when bench bleeding. As I pushed farther in I was able to get more air out of the MC. Air bubbles will come out of the hoses, and even more out of the small holes into the reservoirs. After bleeding the MC level, in the vice, I tilted it a bit forward and then backwards. I was able to get even more bubbles out as it was tilted. Two BS wives tails. First I keep hearing not to push the plunger all the way in because it will tear the seals. BS! This is only true in OLD rusty POS MC's, it has nothing to do with a new shinny MC bore. The plunger has a limiting rod and a spring so it doesn't compress to far. Second,,,, keep the MC level when bleeding. Air in the bore will ALWAYS be at the top of the bore. You can never push the seals far enough to zero out the air/fluid space. Just pure physics! When you tilt it just a bit the air will move up against the seals, then when you push to bleed it, the air will find the little holes up and out of the reservoir. Air will never push down and out, only up and out. There are seals pushing forwards and backwards, so tilting it both ways help force the air up and out.
After installing the MC I bled the brakes with my new Motive bleeder. I was surprised I didn't get any air bubbles from any of the bleeders. I used more than a quart of fluid. But my brakes are very solid now.
Just so you can breathe again,,, I rebuilt and reinstalled the "brake light warning switch". Trust me,,,, it isn't a proportioning valve, metering valve, ETC. It's only function is to light up the brake warning light, when the front or back brakes fail. It doesn't shut off any fluid, it doesn't meter anything, it doesn't proportion anything, it's not adjustable. Even with the heavy duty brakes, that were offered in 1968, it was the same. Your 68 could have very easily been modified by "bubba" but that doesn't make it correct. It may be better, but not original. Not that I really care about originality. I see many of these switches for sale. They even call it all sorts of things, but that doesn't make it so either.
Whew!
Two other notes: At some point you have to remove the MC bleeder fittings. If you do it after installing the MC on the car, fluid will leak out and air might seep in. While still on the bench I put the MC cap on and installed the short lines and block onto the MC. Also,, With the MC installed, rear of the car up, the MC checked with a bullet level and tilting front lower, I took the cap off and pushed the pedal in slowly, I got lots of air out of the reservoir holes. This was just after I carefully bench bled it. Not sure why or where the bubbles came from. This technique is documented on YouTube. You can also get a hard pedal.
Last edited by kodpkd; Mar 18, 2021 at 09:40 AM.
You're right that that block isn't anything more than a pressure switch. The isolation of the front and rear systems is taken care of in the two-reservoir set up of the master. Earlier Corvettes (I think pre-'67) have a single reservoir serving all 4-wheels so that an isolating block becomes necessary to maintain some level of braking ability if you lose either front or rear pressure.
Top up m/c
Replace lid so brake fluid doesn't spurt out
Start at the furthest bleeder away from m/c or using the Chevrolet service manual for 1974, start at the bleeder nearest the m/c.
With engine off, tell helper to pump brake pedal until hard (several pumps of pedal) and then to hold pedal down until you tell them to release pedal
Place a length of clear plastic tubing of a size that will fit snugly over the bleeder outlet hole and not over the hex where you need to use your wrench
Run the tube into a clear plastic quart container like a water bottle that is 1/8-1/4 full of clean brake fluid (this will help suck back fluid vice air if you screw up by not following the procedure) and capture used fluid
Crack open bleeder about a 1/4 turn or whatever it takes to get a flow of brake fluid for about a second and re-tighten
Tell helper to release brake pedal
Tell helper again to pump up brake pedal until hard and hold it down
Crack bleeder again for about a second and re-tighten
Tell helper again to release pedal
After every three or four complete bleeding cycles described above, check m/c and add fluid to prevent m/c from going dry
Keep repeating (it may take 10 or more attempts per caliper bleeder) until there is absolutely no air bubbles coming out
Move on to next bleeder and repeat the whole process
This is the standard procedure I learned at an early age observing mechanics and read in factory service manuals on every vehicle and Harley I've ever owned in the past +40 years. So, which part of the process above is too difficult for any forum members? But don't try this if your not comfortable with your skill level. If it does appear too difficult for anyone, please see post #19. Don't jeopardize your life or others by working on your brake system. And DO NOT bubba your brake system!!!
BUT, it only works on a proper functioning brake system. If the brake system requires new parts (READ the installation instructions and follow accordingly when replacing parts) then it goes without saying that no bleeding techniques or pressure/ vacuum tools will work.
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