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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 05:08 PM
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So I just finished a Borgeson steering install on a 79 manual transmission, the problem is the clutch linkage z bar hits the steering box preventing the clutch peddle from going all the way to the floor which also prevents the car from starting. All the threads that I’ve read don’t address this problem, must have been automatics. Any help or ideas should be greatly appreciated!

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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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Have you got the nylon bushes and felt pieces in the Z bar ?
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No idea, I've never touched the z bar since I've owned this car
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How about a picture from a bit further back. I put a Borgeson in both my ‘64 and ‘69 and it’s not even close to the Z bar.

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I have a manual 68,,,,, no problem installing the Borgeson. I'll look at the clutch.
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Is the unit mounted flush to the frame with the 3 bolts. If it is just a bit crooked it would hit the clutch lever. Maybe the clutch lever is bent towards the steering unit.

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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:18 PM
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Yes, it’s absolutely mounted perfectly flush on the frame. Must be some differences in the clutch linkage from 60’s to late 70’s
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Does the Z bar have any play in it side to side?
It's really to bad. The first test drive is shocking. This is such huge improvement to manual steering. I know you will figure it out. Literally 3 finger steering.

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No lateral play in the z bar
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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My 78 manual with Borgeson doesn't have any clearance issues with the clutch.
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No lateral play in the z bar
Z bar on the right way around ? which way does the grease fitting point ? up or down ?

I have put these on a 72 and a 78 , no problems .
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Here is a better picture of the issue. If you look close you can see where the Z bar made a little dent in the metal of the steering box.
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Grease fitting is facing down
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You are within 1/4 inch. I think there is to big of a gap where the hinge point is. Right where the other end of the arrow is in your picture.

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I'll have to take a close look at the Z bar tomorrow and compare to your picture
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I had the same problem but assumed it was because i had an automatic car that I changed to a 4 speed. I was able to ajust the clutch out about 2/16 and that took care of it for me. Still have almost an inch of free play in the peddle so I think my throw out bearing should be good. Oh and your love the Borgeson once you get your problem sorted.
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79 m here..
sounds maybe silly but my nut on end of bar last week came loose..check both ends just to be sure...picked up a few threads too after readjustment for 1 1/4 play at pedal.
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Maybe this help and compare to what Z bar you have.

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Good idea, I’ll check that out
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