Brake Pads, Your Recommended compound,
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Melting Slicks
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Brake Pads, Your Recommended compound,
1975; power brakes, good condition original rotors,;;; I’m not raceing or auto-crossing, normal spirited driving,, ,, I’m replacing oil soaked pads after rebuilding all SS sleeved calipers with O-ring pistons,,, I’m finding original recommendations for stock rotors was for “organic”
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1975; power brakes, good condition original rotors,;;; I’m not raceing or auto-crossing, normal spirited driving,, ,, I’m replacing oil soaked pads after rebuilding all SS sleeved calipers with O-ring pistons,,, I’m finding original recommendations for stock rotors was for “organic”
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Last edited by interpon; Jul 12, 2021 at 08:27 AM.
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
I would use the Carbotech 1521 compound.
The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
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The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
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Adam Adelstein
Amp’D Autosport.com
Internet's largest retailer of Carbotech Performance Brake Pads.
PH:216-780-8825.
Email: sales@ampdautosport.com
Web Site & Direct ordering http://ampdautosport.com/
All major CC and Pay Pal accepted.
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I would use the Carbotech 1521 compound.
The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
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Adam Adelstein
Amp’D Autosport.com
Internet's largest retailer of Carbotech Performance Brake Pads.
PH:216-780-8825.
Email: sales@ampdautosport.com
Web Site & Direct ordering http://ampdautosport.com/
All major CC and Pay Pal accepted.
Check out Promo code:z28
The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
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Adam Adelstein
Amp’D Autosport.com
Internet's largest retailer of Carbotech Performance Brake Pads.
PH:216-780-8825.
Email: sales@ampdautosport.com
Web Site & Direct ordering http://ampdautosport.com/
All major CC and Pay Pal accepted.
Check out Promo code:z28
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Thanks ,, you all have reassured me that I'm on the right page with pads,,, organic seems correct,, im still on the fence with ceramic compound,, in my case im leaning--I don't need ceramic-- .
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
Adam, you need to update website... when i went there..no C3.. starts at C4.. i realized after deeper search they are there.. but the menu (left side and front page) could improve..or i would have considered them but already ordered different.. also if USA made or not would be good.. thanks!
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If you want stopping power and less brake fade when they are hot, go with metallic or semi-metallic brake pads. If you want 'normal' stopping power with "less expensive" pads, go with organic pads. I like something that provides decent stopping power with MUCH LESS brake pad dust on the wheels; so I go for ceramic pads.
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I've tried Hawk, Wagner's thermal quiets, and AC Delco pads. The AC Delco pads offer the least stopping power. The Hawks will put you through the windshield. The Wagner's thermal quiets stop pretty good and are inexpensive. But what ever you choose don't get ceramic pads. Yes they don't dust or make noise. But you know what else they don't do, stop your car.
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. I did try them on a daily driver G6 GTP,, and was extremely let down on performance,,, I have stayed away from ceramic after that.....
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I've tried Hawk, Wagner's thermal quiets, and AC Delco pads. The AC Delco pads offer the least stopping power. The Hawks will put you through the windshield. The Wagner's thermal quiets stop pretty good and are inexpensive. But what ever you choose don't get ceramic pads. Yes they don't dust or make noise. But you know what else they don't do, stop your car.
Which Hawk pads did you use? Did they produce much dust?
I now have the Hawk performance ceramic on my '73. It stops decent and the pads don't make a lot of dust but it doesn't stop as well as the pads that came with my Wilwood system. Especially when the brakes are cold. Once they heat up, they are much better. I swapped because the pads that came with the Wilwood system made a horrendous amount of red dust and I got tired of cleaning the wheels. Would like to find something that stops as well as the Wilwoods without making so much dust.
I wish I could find out the composition of the pads on my '05 Suburban. Original pads. 168,000 miles. Still many miles left to go. Better stopping performance than I'm getting out of the Vette's ceramic pads. Very little dust.
By the way, the Wilwood calipers will accept the same pads that fit the factory calipers.
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HPS. They do dust. They were the first set I try and I loved them in spite of having to clean the wheels every time I went out. Unfortunately my calipers leaked and that was the end of them. I didn't want to spend another $230 on pads so I got the AC Delco pads. I didn't like the stopping power of those pads so I then tried the Wagner thermal quiets. I'm okay with the stopping power of the Wagner's. I think I'm going to go back to the Hawk in the future now that I rebuilt the calipers and no longer leaking.
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DO NOT USE CERAMICS...they suck at stopping......are designed primarily for low noise (whatever that means since almost all pads I have ever used are quiet) and low dust. Had Wagner Ceramic Thermo quiets on a Chrysler 300 and was stunned at the lack of stopping power...went to the junk heap, barely worn......
Performance Friction Carbon Metallics-Will not wear your rotors, provide incredible stopping power, more stopping the HOTTER they get, no noise, will last 2-3X as long as conventional ceramic, semi metallics, and/or organics and with low dust......been using PF CM's for over 20 years on multiple cars..not great in rain though but the best all around performance Street pad on the market...........
Performance Friction Carbon Metallics-Will not wear your rotors, provide incredible stopping power, more stopping the HOTTER they get, no noise, will last 2-3X as long as conventional ceramic, semi metallics, and/or organics and with low dust......been using PF CM's for over 20 years on multiple cars..not great in rain though but the best all around performance Street pad on the market...........
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Was not sure if Metallic pads would play nice with original rotors. Good info from personal experience jb78 L82 ,, and you back up what I experienced with ceramic, , it was like ' where did my brakes go???'
Melting Slicks
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You won't have a problem with the semi metallic eating up the rotors. It sounds like you and me drive our car's the same. The organic pads of today don't seem to work as well as the organic pads of yesterday.
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Great 👍 thanks,,, im now thinking that will satisfy my needs..
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I have read MANY brake pad descriptions...... When they start with "quiet" "low dust" "high temp" ETC, everyday stopping power isn't high on there list of concern. I like semi metallic or organic also.