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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 06:32 PM
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This has us a little confused, I have a’68 L68 427 and it has this pipe and fitting which is plugged.
I’m thinking it’s a prior owner thing for ???
May never know but it’s located on the drivers side of the block just above the oil filter. Has me wondering if it’s a port for the oil pressure gauge which btw is frozen at about 30lbs.
Anyone know if this is a factory thing ?


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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 06:57 PM
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Definitely not factory. Sometimes the oil pressure tap originates from that location. I’ll try to find a photo.
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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 07:19 PM
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Yes, it's the oil pressure gauge line port into the block. The pipe and fitting are not correct though. Is that a broken plastic tube hanging down in the pic? If so, that's the oil line that runs between the block fittings and the gauge.

You're looking for the entire kit to replace the missing pieces and the plastic line (always good to replace the plastic if you don't know that it's done). The kit is about $35 from Corvette Central, but I learned recently that this kit uses a copper line between the block and the plastic fitting whereas the factory hard line was steel. You will also need the block fitting and bracket that secures the connection between the hard line and the plastic line.






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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 07:59 PM
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It doesn't look factory but I'm not sure what the 68 used there. The 69-74 is like what's posted above and I believe it's what the vendors call as 68-74 but I wonder if the 68 used the same as the 67 which I believe was just straight into the block with the line one piece rather than the copper to plastic joint
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Old Apr 1, 2022 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooser
It doesn't look factory but I'm not sure what the 68 used there. The 69-74 is like what's posted above and I believe it's what the vendors call as 68-74 but I wonder if the 68 used the same as the 67 which I believe was just straight into the block with the line one piece rather than the copper to plastic joint
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Actually, my '67 427 has a solid steel line from the block to the gauge.

I misread the OP's year and thought we were talking '69. It appears the '68 427 uses the plastic line from the block to the gauge (according to CC), which kinda makes sense given the length of the plastic line hanging down (if that's what it is).
https://www.corvettecentral.com/c3-6...q%3doil%2bline
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Originally Posted by 67:72
Yes, it's the oil pressure gauge line port into the block. The pipe and fitting are not correct though. Is that a broken plastic tube hanging down in the pic? If so, that's the oil line that runs between the block fittings and the gauge.

You're looking for the entire kit to replace the missing pieces and the plastic line (always good to replace the plastic if you don't know that it's done). The kit is about $35 from Corvette Central, but I learned recently that this kit uses a copper line between the block and the plastic fitting whereas the factory hard line was steel. You will also need the block fitting and bracket that secures the connection between the hard line and the plastic line.




Thank you!
Have a suspicion that at some point the gauge froze and someone mounted an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, maybe with a 12v sender.
I have 3 non working gauges, clock (shocker), oil pressure and amp meter.
The tach was dead when I picked up the car 5 weeks back but the more I run it the more the tach behaves. The cable has numerous cracks and I have a new one on hand to be done one day soon.
The car isn’t going to be a concourse restoration but I do intend to make everything work as it should.
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Originally Posted by 67:72
Actually, my '67 427 has a solid steel line from the block to the gauge.

I misread the OP's year and thought we were talking '69. It appears the '68 427 uses the plastic line from the block to the gauge (according to CC), which kinda makes sense given the length of the plastic line hanging down (if that's what it is).
https://www.corvettecentral.com/c3-6...q%3doil%2bline
That's what I mean, I've seen a couple and they just went all the way down and into the block rather than that extra piece the 69+ has


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hopefully someone with a 68 car or AIM can chime in
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One thought, ‘68 - plastic line, ‘69 - copper line. Thinking the copper line though not correct for the year might be a safer more sturdy design.
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Again, not sure what the 68 would have had but obviously something slightly different than the 69+ so until someone with an AIM jumps in I'm just speculating if it was the same as 67 or something once again unique to the 68
My guess would be that might be why they changed the design in 69 so that copper part was beside the manifold still protecting from the heat and and then the more flexible plastic the rest of the way to the gauge. (I'd say cheaper but with the additional fittings and bracket it probably wasn't cheaper so I'll stick with easier for the worker to install)
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Originally Posted by Lt.Mike
One thought, ‘68 - plastic line, ‘69 - copper line. Thinking the copper line though not correct for the year might be a safer more sturdy design.
It appears through DocRebuild that the '68 was a steel line similar to the '67's:
https://shop.docrebuild.com/1968Corv...M12489518.aspx
I tend to trust his descriptions and identifiers over the other vendors.



Mooser is right that if you want the correct factory setup for '68 you'll need to see what was called out in the assembly instruction manual - that carries more weight than vendors' descriptions. A clue may be that detached line hanging down - is it plastic or metal?
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Looks like Bubba's work on that fitting.
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooser
Again, not sure what the 68 would have had but obviously something slightly different than the 69+ so until someone with an AIM jumps in I'm just speculating if it was the same as 67 or something once again unique to the 68
My guess would be that might be why they changed the design in 69 so that copper part was beside the manifold still protecting from the heat and and then the more flexible plastic the rest of the way to the gauge. (I'd say cheaper but with the additional fittings and bracket it probably wasn't cheaper so I'll stick with easier for the worker to install)
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From 1968 AIM
Found these 2 and the SBC one.....



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Another 68 thing.......

​​​What did the pressure switch do? Did they have an idiot light along with the gauge..
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That looks substantial. Maybe the guy had an accusump?
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 67:72
It appears through DocRebuild that the '68 was a steel line similar to the '67's:
https://shop.docrebuild.com/1968Corv...M12489518.aspx
I tend to trust his descriptions and identifiers over the other vendors.



Mooser is right that if you want the correct factory setup for '68 you'll need to see what was called out in the assembly instruction manual - that carries more weight than vendors' descriptions. A clue may be that detached line hanging down - is it plastic or metal?
I’m taking what I find in this car with a grain of salt .
most of the car is correct but there is some sketchy stuff that defies description. Case in point...
Thinking this isn’t factory electrical work. Found this yesterday when I dropped the spare tire carrier. The radios speaker wires are connected like this too. Fortunately this car has limited tech so I’m finding and correcting things like this without too much trouble.
I’ll look into the Doc rebuild site for that thanks. Steel is harder than plastic to work with but I’m not a fan of oil in my carpet.


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Originally Posted by Mooser
Another 68 thing.......

​​​What did the pressure switch do? Did they have an idiot light along with the gauge..
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it’s anybody’s guess at this point
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Originally Posted by cottoneg
That looks substantial. Maybe the guy had an accusump?
that’s one thing I was wondering
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
Looks like Bubba's work on that fitting.
Ya, there is a certain amount of that in this car but fortunately it’s limited and easily reversible.
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Originally Posted by Lt.Mike
I’ll look into the Doc rebuild site for that thanks. Steel is harder than plastic to work with but I’m not a fan of oil in my carpet.
Make sure you have your big boy pants on if you're going to deal with Doc

If you're not totally concerned with originality then you could go braided on that line and have sort of the best of both (reliability and flexibility). One word of caution is that the actual fitting on the gauge is sort of a odd duck
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I would definitely go with a SS braided hose as a replacement. I have an early 1968 (1st week of October, 1967) and it had the Nylon tube on it from the factory. First I found and bought a copper line replacement and then found the SS Braided -3AN line in a kit and went with that. I have tube insulation over the SS Braided hose in the engine bay feeding the oil pressure gauge. I don't have any Oil Pressure light on my C3, just the pressure gauge.

When we rebuilt my 427 the nylon line was old and fragile and would snap easily when bent past 45* so I knew I would have to replace it. The LAST thing you should ever want is 200* (F) oil squirting out from under the dashboard as it would likely cause a fire and there goes the Corvette in addition to the burns on your legs.

Dr. Rebuild is an incredibly useful source for many parts on the older Corvettes. Dealing with Doc can be challenging if he is having a "bad" day, I have been very fortunate and used his parts many times over as he has the right parts at a good price. Doc is a very nice guy normally but like many people he doesn't tolerate stupidity very well at times. The Vacuum Hose set from him is the best I have seen and they gave me a Hose layout that is priceless.

The hose used on my 1968 was Nylon, not steel or copper. When I bought the SS braided hose it came with the necessary fittings to make it work with my Corvette. I still have the copper replacement set on my garage wall.....

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