Makes no difference if power or manual. Both systems are identical hydraulic systems, just one has an assist, the other does not.
I use gravity bleeding and have for over 30 years too on everything and anything.....even motorcycles. Works every time.

Jebby

 

OK,,, you are a gravity guy,,, but you didn't say what system?

 

It makes no difference…..the hydraulics are the same.

 

So a boosted system feels exactly the same as a manual system when braking?

 

No one said that. You should research how power brakes work. It will help you understand the posts.

 

Imagine you are pushing a 3500 lb car and someone walks up and helps you. Did the weight of the car change, or did it just become easier to push?

 

Have power brakes. . Gravity has never failed me. My favorite,,,,

 

Phoenix Reverse Brake Bleeder, it gets ALL the air out and is easy to do!

 

No need….that falls under “everything and anything including motorcycles”
It absolutely does not make any difference at all power or manual…..not opinion, fact.

Jebby

 

Nope, and it should not…..manual systems have a smaller piston in the master cylinder…..this creates more line pressure….and the master cylinder plunger has more leverage at the pedal arm as it is in a slightly different position…..but both systems function exactly the same and will potentially bleed the same….
It takes more pressure at the foot to achieve the same thing in a manual system but they will stop exactly the same assuming the same pressure coming out of the master cylinder.
The booster itself has zero to do with bleeding.

Jebby

 

So if someone is fighting to get a, hard pedal/good braking, on a manual car vs a power brake car,,,, it would be easier to get good braking on a power boosted car,,, correct?

 

But power brakes or manual brakes?

 

If someone buys a C3 manual brake car for the first time,,,,,, is he more or less likely to be happy with the braking of a manual car.

Someone working to be satisfied with the braking on his car,,,, more likely on a power brake car than a manual brake car?

 

I've always used a gravity bleed, but for some reason that stopped working when I replumbed everything and switched to Wilwood brakes. The wife method has shown some reluctance lately.

I have a spare Wilwood master cylinder cover and a compressed air tank so I am thinking maybe I can pressurize the system by tapping into the cover and installing a couple of fittings. And perhaps I need check valves? Not sure..

 

 

No....not how it works. Either the system has air in it or does not. The only things that can cause bad pedal are air in the line, bad master cylinder seals and sometimes a bad proportioning valve (which falls under air in the line as it will not let you remove air from the line). On rare occasions...the crossover port for the two caliper halves gets blocked and one side of the caliper will bleed and one not.....this will cause a bad pedal too....but once again, it makes no difference boosted or not.
If you have all of the air removed from the line, there is no "fighting to get a hard pedal"......it will not be easier with power vs. manual. There is a lot of posts here about people "fighting to get the system bled" and they feel that power or non-power has something to do with it and I can tell you without a doubt that it does not. You remove the air....you have a good pedal, if you do not....it is probably a bad master. It is a sealed hydraulic system, do not overthink it. And the statement "it would be easier to get good braking on a power boosted car" is not relative because you either have it bled proper or do not.......the power assist is not crutch for a improperly functioning system.
I hope this clears things up......

Jebby

 

First sportscar was manual drum brakes.
Then on to power front disc rear drum.
Then 4 wheel power disc.
Then 4 disc anti-lock.
Regardless of which car I had to brake, pedal
felt the same only fade came into play.

A 4 wheel manual disc system requires the correct master cylinder to allow foot pressure to engage and use the brakes and the pedal will be just as hard as a power brake system, only more foot pressure is required.

 

Power assist was created to do just that....assist...it is great for weaker legs and feet to achieve the same line pressure......but ultimately, both cars will stop identically given the proper amount of pedal pressure.
I have owned two manual brake Vette's and both braked extremely well.....both would lock all four calipers no problem.

Jebby

 

I really do understand how brakes work,,,,,,, but that isn't the question.
I ask, if someone got a C3 manual brake car, would he be more or less likely to be unsatisfied with the perceived braking of the car?

If someone is working to make the brakes better on his C3, would be easier to make a boosted brake car good enough.

 

Neither one makes the brakes better. Power windows don't make the windows better.

It's a matter of creature comfort and preference. I prefer power brakes.