Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem?
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Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem?
I tried to order these Borla mufflers by telephone this afternoon. Shipment by UPS; payment by VISA. "Sorry, we do not ship to Canada." Canada is closer to this vendor than Florida....And yes, we do have UPS and FedEx service in the Great White North. I e-mailed them to get an explanation of policy beyond what the salesman stated. There is a "market" up here ;) .
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
Same situation with Sallee Chevrolet.
As of March 28th, 2002 we will no longer ship parts to or take orders for outside of the USA. We regret having to do this, but the changes that have come about since September 11th have made it too costly and time consuming to continue this. We will only ship to and take orders for locations within the USA. The only exception we will make to this is if you have an agent or person within the USA that we can ship too and they ship the order to you from there.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Some people thought the earth was flat too. :rolleyes:
As of March 28th, 2002 we will no longer ship parts to or take orders for outside of the USA. We regret having to do this, but the changes that have come about since September 11th have made it too costly and time consuming to continue this. We will only ship to and take orders for locations within the USA. The only exception we will make to this is if you have an agent or person within the USA that we can ship too and they ship the order to you from there.
Some people thought the earth was flat too. :rolleyes:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
Hmmm - you'll have to tell us, Paul. I've been to Toronto/Waterloo
on many many visits. I don't recall any odiferous individuals. (sp?)
Small companies may have an allergy to international shipping and monetary
conversion. Not to mention the confusing (to us) tax system. Customs
brokers - local delivery - the list of allergens goes on.
Of course, once you've done it a couple times - piece of cake.
I used to HATE shipping things to/from Taiwan and Hong Kong - until I started
using Fed Ex. They did all the brokering and customs footwork, and they
delivered door-to-door.
Good luck finding the Borlas. Can I say in here that I think Summit should have them ?
:seeya
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (67HEAVEN)
Same situation with Sallee Chevrolet.
SNIP ... We regret having to do this, but the changes that have come about since September 11th have made it too costly and time consuming to continue this. ... SNIP
SNIP ... We regret having to do this, but the changes that have come about since September 11th have made it too costly and time consuming to continue this. ... SNIP
Maybe if you can get Quebec to go independent - we'll start shipping up there again. :lol: :lol: :jester
Now, don't everybody in Quebec take offense - just a bad joke. :cuss :nono:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
If you can't get any joy in Canada.....what hope do I have in New Zealand????
I've found that some US companies are shy about exporting, but once I've explained how the system works (most importantly that I'd pay for insurance and extra freight), they've been more than willing to ship......
I'd talk to the manager.....
Good luck
I've found that some US companies are shy about exporting, but once I've explained how the system works (most importantly that I'd pay for insurance and extra freight), they've been more than willing to ship......
I'd talk to the manager.....
Good luck
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
Don't feel bad, Paul. Back in the '70s when I was a VW nut living in Ontario, it was impossible to get anything...and I do mean anything! I once bought a $19 fiberglass spoiler and was stuck with a $66 shipping charge when it got across the border. Told 'em to auction it off. Since then it's gotten 100 times easier to get stuff.
A suggestion: Do you have a friend or relative on this side of the border who could place the order, get the shipment, and then send it up there as a "gift"? :cheers:
A suggestion: Do you have a friend or relative on this side of the border who could place the order, get the shipment, and then send it up there as a "gift"? :cheers:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (page62)
No I don't have friends, unfortunately. I am so burned I could spit. There is supposed to be a North America Free Trade Agreement. That's a joke. I suspect the company just does not wish to fill out the customs forms (five minutes). We Canadians do pay in real money.
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
paul79,
Just plain weird. :confused:
I have purchased parts for my motorcycles from both Germany and Australia with 5 day delivery (non express) to Wichita, Kansas. Service was as good as from within the US.
A friend, also in Wichita, ordered a microphone for his video camera at 2pm. The item was delivered to his door, the next morning, at 8:30 - from Tokyo. :thumbs:
Doesn't seem like it should be a problem. Maybe these are some of the folks that can't find Canada (or the US for that matter) on a world map. :lol:
Just plain weird. :confused:
I have purchased parts for my motorcycles from both Germany and Australia with 5 day delivery (non express) to Wichita, Kansas. Service was as good as from within the US.
A friend, also in Wichita, ordered a microphone for his video camera at 2pm. The item was delivered to his door, the next morning, at 8:30 - from Tokyo. :thumbs:
Doesn't seem like it should be a problem. Maybe these are some of the folks that can't find Canada (or the US for that matter) on a world map. :lol:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
shipping to/from Canada should not be considered 'international' shipping. brokerage companies are setup to handle all the paperwork, and we, the reciever get the big bill. i see no reason why a vendor would not want to ship to Canada because it is not in there 'policy' :rolleyes:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (Turbo-Jet)
Not sure how it works with car parts, but even selling our products from one division to the other from U.S. to Canada is not worth our time with what we have to go through. The conversion rates make it impossible to do business with these trade laws. And no one in their right mind would buy a car from Canada. Nothing against Canada, but I had the car in my hands within 14 days and it took another 15 days for custom papers to ever clear. And I was dealing with a semi-reputable shipper in Mackie Transport. Everything got held up in U.S. Customs and Texas told me to take a hike until I had sealed documents. And then another 30-45 days to give me a clear Texas title. Not worth the time to go through *foreign* shipping again. And that's what it really is.
Not blaming Canada.... saying the whole trade industry does not work.
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Not blaming Canada.... saying the whole trade industry does not work.
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (Desertdawg)
See, Paul ... you do have friends ... us!
Your other alternative is to contact Borla (you can get that info by putting a www. before and a .com after) and see if the have any dealers in Canada. But I'll be the prices from a shop in Toronto would be truly gold-plated! :yesnod:
Your other alternative is to contact Borla (you can get that info by putting a www. before and a .com after) and see if the have any dealers in Canada. But I'll be the prices from a shop in Toronto would be truly gold-plated! :yesnod:
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (page62)
Paul, it's called "we do not understand". For my online store, I do not ship out of the US simply because of higher fraud potential. A simple call and an order by phone, product shipped to Canada with no problems.
It's generally a case of preceived risk and increased costs/time in many cases associated with 9/11.
I have my own UPS acct and could help out from time to time if needed.
It's generally a case of preceived risk and increased costs/time in many cases associated with 9/11.
I have my own UPS acct and could help out from time to time if needed.
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (page62)
A sequel. The shop in Illinois has not answered my e-mails. I gave up on them. The web site says "choose country"; only one option: USA. So that's out. The shop in New York did reply by e-mail and quoted a price of $110.00US each. I tried to order. They do not answer their 'phones and on-line ordering does not list Borla #40352 mufflers. So that is a no-go. Borla e-mailed and tried to sell me the entire cat back kit for $600.00US. They would not give me a price for the individual mufflers. The salesman left a number with an extension for further information. Not in service! I guess no one wants my money :confused: .
*Edit*-Borla was not cat back. Just the mufflers to Y-pipe with those muffler twin-tips. I wish to retain the stock look with the Borla sound as Slickman has. Why is it so hard to buy mufflers?
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*Edit*-Borla was not cat back. Just the mufflers to Y-pipe with those muffler twin-tips. I wish to retain the stock look with the Borla sound as Slickman has. Why is it so hard to buy mufflers?
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (Desertdawg)
Paul I hear you , this kind of story gives them the a bad name ( the Amermicans). This experience shows us that THEIR WORLD ENDS AT THEIR BORDERS . And you wonder why we all feel the same. I have had the same experience. Sorry for the rant but hey we all breath the same air. Or do we?I bought my car in the USA, it took 1hour and 15minutes to clear customs on something that weights 3400 lbs and is 15ft long I had just invested the time to do the paperwork. Paul they simply are not interested in our business.
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
I had a telephone conversation today re the Borla #40352s with the shop in New York State recommended by Slickman. I must say they were very pleasant and easy to deal with. And had no reluctance to ship to Canada. They had no stock on those mufflers but called Borla on my behalf. Unfortunately that muffler is discontinued and Borla's shelves are empty. So that project has come to a grinding halt. But it was nice to find people willing to do a little work on your behalf. So if I do find a substitute you know where I will going....
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Re: Does Canada have a Deoderant Problem? (paul79)
What lessons we learn! Called back the salesman in NY with my second choice: DynoMax Super Turbo #17757. They are a direct fit for the C3 so no fooling about looking for the extensions to the Y-pipe and the tips. About $100.00 each. I asked for an estimate of the shipping price to Canada. Was put on hold for a check. Salesman came back and very apologetically informed me that his management said that some four forms had to be filled out. Too much trouble. OK :mad .
So I did a little search on the internet and found that DynoMax is sold in Canada by a muffler chain called Speedy Muffler. There is one 10 minutes from me. I called and yes they can source DynoMax from Walker in three days. Price in US dollars is $198 for the pair. With installation, $233US. So......
I do not have to pay shipping and brokerage, risk damage in shipping, get the wrong parts, etc. Sometimes the obvious solution is right under your nose ;) .
Oh, how loud are Super Turbos?
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So I did a little search on the internet and found that DynoMax is sold in Canada by a muffler chain called Speedy Muffler. There is one 10 minutes from me. I called and yes they can source DynoMax from Walker in three days. Price in US dollars is $198 for the pair. With installation, $233US. So......
I do not have to pay shipping and brokerage, risk damage in shipping, get the wrong parts, etc. Sometimes the obvious solution is right under your nose ;) .
Oh, how loud are Super Turbos?
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