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Old Sep 10, 2022 | 10:49 AM
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What size accelerator pump discharge nozzle are you running?
And what is a,,, anti-pullover pump shooter, vs a regular holley squirter?

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What problems are you experiencing that led you to changing nozzle size and type?
What other modifications to the engine?
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I didn't change nozzles yet. I have a slight bog when accelerating.
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
I didn't change nozzles yet. I have a slight bog when accelerating.
did you follow Holley instructions for adjusting accelerator pump arm clearance?.
Throttle held wide open, pump arm pressed down, .015 feeler gauge between pump arm and adjustment screw.
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Old Sep 10, 2022 | 10:06 PM
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Not knowing what list number 4175 you have, it's impossible to make a recommendation. Depending on list number, model 4175 Holleys came with # 25, 28, 31, 37, and 40 primary accel pump discharge nozzles. If you have a list number that used the 25 or 28 nozzles, bump it up to a 31 - the models that came with the #25 nozzles often have a tip-in bog. If you have a list number that came with 37 or 40 nozzles, I'd suggest looking at issues other than discharge nozzle size, such as accel pump arm action and setup, as suggested by Mel. Many newer Holley carbs have quality control problems with the accel pump cam follower lever not resting on the pump cam, but riding on the throttle shaft return spring. This will cause a tip-in bog from lack of movement of the lever when the throttle is moved.

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The acc pump is adjusted correctly. It is a 4175 0-80555-C, it currently has a size 40 anti pullover shooter. It has the 30 cc acc pump.
I assumed the 40 was big enough. If anything maybe to big. I didn't know how 5000 ft elevation might change things.
It's an L79 350 HP

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I adjusted the throttle cam from position 2 to position 1, that seemed to help a little.
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I adjusted the throttle cam from position 2 to position 1, that seemed to help a little.
Did you recheck the arm clearance after changing the position?
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Originally Posted by MelWff
Did you recheck the arm clearance after changing the position?
Thank you. Yes. I do think it's interesting the number of techniques I see online, how to adjust the acc pump. There are two adjustments that need to be correct. One closed throttle and one full open throttle. Closed throttle there shouldn't be any play between the throttle bar and the pump lever. This insures zero delay between throttle movement and the fuel shot. Full throttle you need to be sure the acc pump isn't bottomed out. They always push a feeler gauge between the bar and the acc lever at WOT. If the spring compresses when doing this, the bar is probably bottomed out. You need to be sure the acc lever moves and not just the spring.
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I have also found there is a little slack in the throttle bar and the acc pump bar. You can adjust the spring bolt so there isn't any gap between the two but the acc pump isn't being activated until later in throttle movement. You need to take up this slack, so as soon as the throttle moves there is a squirt of gas.

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Originally Posted by kodpkd
I didn't change nozzles yet. I have a slight bog when accelerating.
Is that bog at wide open throttle or just partial throttle?
Have you eliminated your initial timing and timing curve not being the cause?
No vacuum leaks?
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It was at partial throttle.. It is timed to Lar's spec. No vacuum leaks. Note my Edit. ^^^^^

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The main question is about the 40 nozzle. For 5000 ft altitude and higher when it is hot out, is 40 more that likely to be too big or too small?
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
The main question is about the 40 nozzle. For 5000 ft altitude and higher when it is hot out, is 40 more that likely to be too big or too small?
Lars would be the guy to answer but for less O2 you want less gas, so 40 could be too large.
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