Potential HP as is
We do have motorways and you used to be able to go quite fast on here as long as it wasn't too busy and you'd be left alone but now the main ones are littered with cameras, although they let you take a course if you get caught.
I was just after a general idea of the hp or potential of the car, like other people have said in this day and age spending a ton of money to get it to 600 hp is a waste of time (esp in UK) unless you want a track car and the chances are something more modern would perform much better anyway.
BTW the car is all registered and insured now so is road legal, but at the garage having the parking brakes fully rebuilt (they were disconnected when I got the car) , which I believe has almost caused the mechanic to have a nervous breakdown. A few other minor things to do but the winter is coming in fast here in the UK so it might not be until the spring that I get to properly take the car out for a good run.
Thanks for all your replies though it's been a big help.
I'm not trashin' on ya augie, i'm trashng on those idiots at Car & Driver. I've just spent decades reading stupid magazines telling people not to overcam their engines. Yeah, you know, i think after 4 decades ov browbeating, we get it Hotrod/CarCraft. I wont buy the 322 DeathRattler HellaChopter cam for my daily driver 305. Why does anyone even sell a cam bigger than 256?
My advice? Build a good COMBO (cid/compression/heads/cam/intake) for how you ACTUALLY want to drive. If you cant do that, find someone who can and get their help. This forum has many members that can do this in their sleep. Its not 1983 anymore... no one is guessing.
I'm not trashin' on ya augie, i'm trashng on those idiots at Car & Driver. I've just spent decades reading stupid magazines telling people not to overcam their engines. Yeah, you know, i think after 4 decades ov browbeating, we get it Hotrod/CarCraft. I wont buy the 322 DeathRattler HellaChopter cam for my daily driver 305. Why does anyone even sell a cam bigger than 256?
My advice? Build a good COMBO (cid/compression/heads/cam/intake) for how you ACTUALLY want to drive. If you cant do that, find someone who can and get their help. This forum has many members that can do this in their sleep. Its not 1983 anymore... no one is guessing.
it’s all context. If I have to wind up the Corvette to 6000 to accelerate…..I consider it weak. With my 406, and the big block, if I can accelerate the same amount at 3000 rpm…..then the only reason I need 6000 rpm is to go 150 mph…..which I have no interest in doing, nor should anyone be allowed to do on the public roads.
it seems that muscle cars have always been judged by the drag racing mentality, and no matter how much logic is applied, owners need big cams, artificial loping cams, and high RPMs to make them feel their car is worthy. It’s like a mental roadblock. The bottom line to this thinking is that a guy just wants a drag racer to drive on the street….likes the noise and makes him feel good. Thing is, we all don’t want drag racers. Do you think Porsche and Ferrari owners think like this?
Some of the true street performance guys like Vizard talk about a strong and flat torque curve, starting sooner than later in rpm is what pushes you back in the seat ……on the street. It’s written in multiple books I have and my experience. My first engine in the vette was a 350 with AFR heads…..it would only get moving to my satisfaction above 5000 rpm…..which is why I pulled it and got the 406…and should have just got a big block.
And for me personally….as you know, I have no interest in what is required to go above 70 mph max…..it’s useless. What I want and get out of my 406 and my Harley is exciting acceleration without high rpm noise and abuse. And both deliver more of that, and better than some over-cammed high rpm motor. My 06 Corvette is very powerful, but I can tell it wants RPM…..but I just shift to use the low end torque to accelerate without all the racket…..even though it’s a beautiful sound, that will be better when I get some Borlas on it.
Obviously on a track….opposite is true. It’s that simple. To me it’s easy, and weak, to need high RPM to make a car or bike accelerate.
Last edited by Shovels and Vettes; Oct 24, 2022 at 10:01 AM.
Sure big torque is great too, but not at the sacrifice of rpm capability. Otherwise I’d just have a Diesel engine.
I remember when all the motocross mostly switched over to 4 stroke high torque engines. It made racing so much easier, jumps, acceleration, whoops all became easy because the torque accelerated the bike much quicker.
However it was not as fun as a two stroke that took significantly more skill and ability and technique to go fast vs just big torque to go fast. Having to work for it is half the fun.
Big torque makes slow guys a lot faster and fast guys a little faster. It levels the playing field to a large degree, taking out much of the driver skill/technique as a variable. But if we’re talking street driving primarily. Something at or below 55 mph, big torque is still fun.
BTW, IIRC turbine engines spin pretty fast
. Not fair to compare turbine engine to ICE engine?Another part of this discussion is the transmission. I could wind out the engine to 6000 RPM in first gear....then shift to second, and then go to 6000......which by that point, I am probably doing highway speed. Then I guess I skip third and go to fourth to cruise. Going to 6000 RPM in 4th gear is NEVER happening with me behind the wheel, because it would be doing 130 mph plus???? (just a guess). I prefer hitting it in first till second is a better option for pushing the car forward, then into 3rd again with another push....and finally,....cruising in 4th. Of course, I love to shift and I am not dropping the clutch and shocking the drivetrain.....I do it nice and easy......and its a blast. I could not enjoy it more.
I am doing the same with the 2006 C6......with shift points around 2500 RPM. Fifth gear puts it at 1700 RPM at 55 mph.....which to me is almost lugging it. I have only used 6th gear when on turnpike to Carlisle at 70 mph.....otherwise....never. THis has proven to me that my M23Z 4-speed was the right choice. Having a fifth gear behind this 406 would drop the rpm a little.....but to me, no big deal. Not worth the loss of the factory shifter and not an issue at 55-60 mph that I typically drive.
Last edited by Shovels and Vettes; Oct 24, 2022 at 12:46 PM.
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Last edited by Shovels and Vettes; Oct 28, 2022 at 09:54 AM.
Without reading through each post, here is my suggestion.
If the hp rating is important to you, then find a shop in your area that specializes in dyno tuning.
They can put your car on their dyno and run it though the gears and give you a printout of the rear wheel horsepower and from that they can calculate the engine horsepower at the crank.
At the same time have them tune your engine on their dyno for maximum efficiency for how you intend to drive and use your new car.
It doesn’t do any good to tune your engine for maximum hp at wide open throttle if you don’t drive it there.
Good luck and keep us posted.

















