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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 06:25 AM
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Default PF454 or PF25 for 1972 350 base engine

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I see another thread where the correct oil filter for my 72 350 base engine is the PF-25, but the previous owner has a PF-454 filter on there now. I assume I should replace it with the PF-25, but wondering why he would have used the PF-454. Is there an advantage to either one?

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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 08:41 AM
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different length

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A PF-25 is approx 4 5/8" tall as a PF-454 is 3 3/4" tall. Try a PF-1218 is 4 5/8" tall
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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The PF25 is 4.338" tall.
The PF454 is 3.306" tall.
If you want to use a better filter, both filters are available from WIX, which is a better filter than the AC filter. Part numbers are 51069 and 57099 respectively, which is the same as the NAPA "Gold" filters (which are actually the WIX filters) sold under NAPA part numbers FIL 1069 and FIL 7099 respectively. These WIX filters are all 21 micron filters.
The PF1218 is actually 5.178" tall.
The PF25 is the filter that most people would recognize as a "stock" size filter for a small block. The "shorty" PF454 is often used if there are header clearance issues that need a shorter filter.

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What exactly is the difference with the sizes? Does it matter in anyway besides clearences? Is either size more efficient or better? You would think that there is some type of calculation they used to establish the 'stock' size, no?

I can't help but think there is a 'that's what she said' joke in here somewhere.

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The larger the filter, the more filter surface area you have.
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PF1218 for me, please.


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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 02:46 PM
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Back in the old days the longer filter was called the "truck" filter because that's what they came on ...
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Originally Posted by SEVNT6
Back in the old days the longer filter was called the "truck" filter because that's what they came on ...
I can verify that statement after spending 45 years in a GM dealership parts department.
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The larger the filter the better as it adds to the oil capacity.
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Plus the longer AC filter has always cost the same as the short one for some reason.

It's the only filter I've used since my 1st oil change back in the Fall of '76...

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Originally Posted by sunflower 1972
PF1218 for me, please.

exactly the one i use..last 3 changes anyway..
USA made..6 bucks on amazon ..gm oe brand.
the last wix i got was chinesium so no more for me.
ac 25 micron…wix 21 as stated.
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Original on my '72 was a PF25. After my first oil change I went with the truck filter, which is a PF35. That's now the Delco PF1218.
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Ummmm….Hastings LF224… I believe that’s the number.

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The GM Performance Gen 1 small block 300hp crate motor I have recommends the PF454 or the PF1218.
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 07:09 AM
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Thanks everyone!
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 08:07 AM
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Didn't know Hastings was still out there. I wonder if they still have the densite media and the heavy case.. always used the 2 qt truck filter
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Lars,
Tx for the informative post..
I am currently using a K&N HP-2002 and would like your opinion as to is it an acceptable suitable sub for the filters that you mentioned/listed??
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I usually run the 2 quart Napa 1794 or equivalent . Even more filter media and more volume is good.
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