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Old Feb 16, 2023 | 08:29 AM
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Fellas - I got a small block Chevy in a parts deal recently; it's said to have had a performance build, but that's all I know. Figured y'all might want to tag along as I figure out exactly what I have.

Plan is to go step-by-step and shoot a video for my YouTube channel. Figure I'll start with block casting number, front pad code, crank flange, and then proceed with disassembly.

How would you proceed?

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Well, I just got it rolled outside and ready and things got interesting real quick. I suspect some of y'all know why...





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I don't see "TDS" here:
https://nastyz28.com/gm-chevy-codes/...s-suffix-7.php

The shape of the pad, plus the 18B..., 8 is 1978? Why isn't that engine blue? B is Baltimore, perhaps?

I guess I don't get it. But huge credit to you for posting the engine stamp. So many teaser tales of engines begin with a post like this, pages of speculation, no photos of an engine stamp, and then the original poster ghosts the Forum.

Let the informed speculation begin!
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010 on both sides of the block.

Date code is blurry.




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So a PO rebuilt it as a 383? Block casting 3970010 (350), from 1978 as far as I can tell, with a 400 crank? Perhaps it was repainted orange during the rebuild.

Are you pulling the heads and pan off, too?
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So a PO rebuilt it as a 383? Block casting 3970010 (350), from 1978 as far as I can tell, with a 400 crank? Perhaps it was repainted orange during the rebuild.

Are you pulling the heads and pan off, too?
Glad to see someone is paying attention! Yes, it's a 400 crank in a 350 block. Agree that it's a '78 block, appears to be a truck or van application, so likely 4 bolt. The plot thickens!
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More details...

Stamped steel rockers.

Single valvespring with damper.

Double roller timing chain.

No numbers or manufacturer stamped on the end of the cam.

Heads are 487's (not 487X) - good smog era open chamber heads with 76cc chambers, 1.94/1.50 valves, H141 date code - that's August (H), 14th, 1971. I believe these heads got hardened seats after 1971, but I'm not sure if that's model year or calendar year. Anyway, it appears that these heads are not original to the block, which appears to be a 1978 casting.





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Lime book shows TDS to be a 1980 truck


TDS 80 350 170 4B,MT TR
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Heads are off. Doesn't look terrible inside, but definitely needs disassembled and cleaned before it's put back together and run.

Bore is 4.030" so it's been bored .030" at some point. Cylinders don't have a ridge, but not a lot of crosshatch evident.


I hit the pistons/rings with some Kroil then Marvel Mystery Oil and let it sit for a bit and then turned it over easily.

Oil pan coming off next.






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Cam is a flat tappet C1H290-S - pretty sure that's a General Kinetics hydraulic cam, 290/300 advertised, 112'ish LSA, around .450" lift.




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Bottom end looks fine. Crank is a 3932442, confirmed as a 350 crank. Damn. Should have known better than to rely on crank flange.

Will remove a rod and piston next.



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Rod journals have been ground .010" as noted on the backside of the rod bearings.

Pistons are cast Silvolite, 4.030, p/n 1436.


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Ok, now I'm confused. Engine was said to have aftermarket rods (Manley?) but I'm not seeing any indication of who manufactured these. There are a few letters and numbers cast into the rods, including a GHK. The rod bolts also appear to be aftermarket.

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Ok, I think that's GMK, which would make it a stock rod, but perhaps with aftermarket rod bolts.
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Ok, I think I've culminated. Looks like it's sold to a member here, so time for me to move on to the next project.

Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it.
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I ended up filming the teardown and inspection; here's the link in case anyone is interested:

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