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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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I noticed the QP is separating (or cracked?) from the wheel well. I am pulling slightly to make the gap obvious. What is a proper way to correct this?


Driver's side (rear), looking aft from behind the rear tire.

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Buy a gallon of Klean Strip Prep-All and thoroughly clean the surfaces of both parts. Be aggressive.

Buy a couple of sheets of 50 and a couple of 80 grit sandpaper and thoroughly sand both surfaces.

Buy a kit of 3M 08116 Panel bond adhesive.

Set up a means to hold the fender to the shield to hold it secure.

Wear protective gloves and apply the adhesive.

Put your support in place and wait for the adhesive to cure.
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 08:25 PM
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Set up a means to hold the fender to the shield to hold it secure.
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Put your support in place and wait for the adhesive to cure.
THIS^!
Securing the panel in contact with the underlying struture is paramount. Mock up whatever method you come up with to test for secure contact prior to mixing/applying the adhesive to the surfaces.
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Originally Posted by 69L88
Buy a gallon of Klean Strip Prep-All and thoroughly clean the surfaces of both parts. Be aggressive.

Buy a couple of sheets of 50 and a couple of 80 grit sandpaper and thoroughly sand both surfaces.

Buy a kit of 3M 08116 Panel bond adhesive.

Set up a means to hold the fender to the shield to hold it secure.

Wear protective gloves and apply the adhesive.

Put your support in place and wait for the adhesive to cure.
That is exactly how I would do it too......

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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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Thank you all. Locating the chemicals now. Will start checking what I can clamp and what needs to be "propped up" so to speak in the interim. I'm guessing this will take "a few minutes" and smell, so open garage door once weather gets a tad warmer.
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I'd add that you'll also need the 3M gun #08571 for dispensing the adhesive. Amazon has the best price I've seen at about $65. Some places are upward of $100 for the same thing. And make sure you get a few mixing tips for the adhesive.
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Using the gun is the professional way to do it. There are knockoffs to the 3M gun for less than $50.
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Whatever you do don't drill holes,sheet metal screws. Use come-along straps,a jack and some ,pretty much any way you can close the gap. Panel Adhesive is like concrete once it sets up so clean/wipe off any excess.
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Whatever you do don't drill holes,sheet metal screws. Use come-along straps,a jack and some ,pretty much any way you can close the gap. Panel Adhesive is like concrete once it sets up so clean/wipe off any excess.
I'm thinking a strap and some clamps. Will figure it out when I can get some time to spend with it. Thank you.
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Using the gun is the professional way to do it. There are knockoffs to the 3M gun for less than $50.
Thank you. I found one on Amazon.
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Originally Posted by 69L88
Buy a gallon of Klean Strip Prep-All and thoroughly clean the surfaces of both parts. Be aggressive.

Buy a couple of sheets of 50 and a couple of 80 grit sandpaper and thoroughly sand both surfaces.

Buy a kit of 3M 08116 Panel bond adhesive.

Set up a means to hold the fender to the shield to hold it secure.

Wear protective gloves and apply the adhesive.

Put your support in place and wait for the adhesive to cure.
While I am waiting for the cleaner to arrive, can I begin with 99% isopropyl alcohol (not on painted surfaces)? I have that on hand.
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No harm in using that but the Prep-All is more effective.
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While I am waiting for the cleaner to arrive, can I begin with 99% isopropyl alcohol (not on painted surfaces)? I have that on hand.
That would work. I'd clean it several times and just when you think it's clean enough,clean it again. I'd blow it out really good and then maybe I'd get the area warm before I applied the adhesive. Don't forget to do a trial run on your clamping setup,don't want to get that panel adhesive goop spread in there then have to fight with things. Might need an extra set of hands.
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Originally Posted by Z51JEFF
That would work. I'd clean it several times and just when you think it's clean enough,clean it again. I'd blow it out really good and then maybe I'd get the area warm before I applied the adhesive. Don't forget to do a trial run on your clamping setup,don't want to get that panel adhesive goop spread in there then have to fight with things. Might need an extra set of hands.
Noted, it will be wiped until a clean rag stays clean and then wiped again. I think this will be best to do outside, when the weather warms up. I have assembled a few spring clamps, bar clamps, ratchet straps, rope and small lengths of wood to mock up before I even put the adhesive in the gun! My extra set of hands are only 3. He isn't getting near it!

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No harm in using that but the Prep-All is more effective.
I will just get as much junk off as I can, then do the same after with the Prep-All. The alcohol is cheaper!

Thanks!

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Anytime you use a solvent based cleaner on fiberglass, you need to let it sit for several hours before putting anything on it such as primer, paint, or adhesives. Bare glass is somewhat porous, so it needs that time to let all traces of the solvent evaporate else it can interfere with the bond.
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Originally Posted by USMC6113
I noticed the QP is separating (or cracked?) from the wheel well. I am pulling slightly to make the gap obvious. What is a proper way to correct this?


Driver's side (rear), looking aft from behind the rear tire.
It turns out there is much larger of an area that came unglued than I had anticipated. It is unglued all the way up the panel to where there is a horizontal rib. I pulled the tire to get a better look. I am able to fish a rag almost to the horizontal rib, I am afraid If I get too rough, I will cause more damage. Trying to clean it now to get better pictures.

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Originally Posted by C3Cliff
Anytime you use a solvent based cleaner on fiberglass, you need to let it sit for several hours before putting anything on it such as primer, paint, or adhesives. Bare glass is somewhat porous, so it needs that time to let all traces of the solvent evaporate else it can interfere with the bond.
Thank you! I intend on thoroughly drying everything with compressed air then allowing it to dry as per your advice.
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Alcohol is fine,that's what I'd use. There's no reason you can't do this in the garage,even when it's cold. The only issue is the smell,I think it's polyester,will smell like fiberglass resin. Once you get this done and all the clamps in place the car will be immobile,I wouldn't want my car sitting out side for a few days. What I would do is put a wedge in the between the panels so you can get the panel adhesive where you need it,pull the wedge and fill in the rest. I'd get a small heater and get that area warm first and have at it.
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Originally Posted by Z51JEFF
Alcohol is fine,that's what I'd use. There's no reason you can't do this in the garage,even when it's cold. The only issue is the smell,I think it's polyester,will smell like fiberglass resin. Once you get this done and all the clamps in place the car will be immobile,I wouldn't want my car sitting out side for a few days. What I would do is put a wedge in the between the panels so you can get the panel adhesive where you need it,pull the wedge and fill in the rest. I'd get a small heater and get that area warm first and have at it.
The fumes can permeate into the upper floor bathrooms when the exhaust fans are on, so I will need a garage window partially opened during the curing process. Noted, wedges will save me a hand pulling out on it while applying the adhesive as well as a small tower heater to prepare the surface and keep the surface warm for at least 24 hours. Thank you.
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Better view after I started cleaning it.
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