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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Want to do a 4l80e swap. Just wondering how much tunnel modification needs to be done, if any? I'm sure this has been answered many times but I don't see anything in the first couple pages. TIA.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:00 PM
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Curious as to why the 4180E? I put a 200R4 into my 78 with no modifications at all. Even the driveshaft was the correct length. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:36 PM
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Because I now have a 383 stroker plus nitrous and a 200R4 is to light duty.
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Well, that is not necessarily so. A 200-R4 can be built to handle high HP. Now, it is true that a 4L80E is basically a 4-speed TH400 with full electronics. Whose tranny controller are you going to use?

Fitment question - well I thought about doing this too at one time so I looked through all the threads. It seems to be a 'good luck' thing. Some reported that fiberglass work was needed to fit the tranny ( I think at the end of the tail shaft for u-joint clearance) but others got it to fit. I think it boils down to how your particular car was assembled.
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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 04:02 AM
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Thanks for your input. Kinda what I've been reading other places.
As for a controller, no controller. Manual valve body.
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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 06:25 AM
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This might be worth researching.

https://www.zerogravityperformance.c...onversion-kit/
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Originally Posted by ratflinger
Now, it is true that a 4L80E is basically a 4-speed TH400 with full electronics.
True, many parts are shared with the first 3 gears of a th400 so they are both built to handle high horsepower, but the 4th gear in a 4L80e is an overdrive.

I had no problem fitting a 4L80E, but my engine location may have been different from stock because of the LS swap. Most likely you will need to modify the transmission support and the driveshaft length. The shifter cable and the electrical connector area were tight, but did not need modification.

I agree that for a high HP cruiser and drag car, the 4L80E is the way to go. Drive to the track on overdrive and lockup, and run the first 3 gears at the track. Don't put any power through 4th gear though. I run 4.10 gears and still stay under 2600 RPM on the highway. My build

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Go big, 10 speed with the paddle shift option.

10 speed
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Did the Vette's get a larger tunnel in 1974 like cars did or like Camaros in particular ? I had a customer bring me a Super T10 from a 74 Camaro to install in a 1965 GTO and there was no room in the tunnel for the shifter plate and the transmission literally was right up against the tunnel , the original Muncie has plenty of room . If so that might be why some fit the 4L80 and some don't ?
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Originally Posted by gkull

I did not think the 6L80 would fit in the C3
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Zip has a C3 with a 6L80e in it.
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Manual Tunnels are different than Automatic Tunnels. See here .... I ended up using Banjo Fittings for the cooler fittings to fit a 200-4R into my Manual Tunnel 68.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...vs-manual.html




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Did the Vette's get a larger tunnel in 1974 like cars did or like Camaros in particular ? I had a customer bring me a Super T10 from a 74 Camaro to install in a 1965 GTO and there was no room in the tunnel for the shifter plate and the transmission literally was right up against the tunnel , the original Muncie has plenty of room . If so that might be why some fit the 4L80 and some don't ?
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Originally Posted by DblTrbl
True, many parts are shared with the first 3 gears of a th400 so they are both built to handle high horsepower, but the 4th gear in a 4L80e is an overdrive.

I had no problem fitting a 4L80E, but my engine location may have been different from stock because of the LS swap. Most likely you will need to modify the transmission support and the driveshaft length. The shifter cable and the electrical connector area were tight, but did not need modification.

I agree that for a high HP cruiser and drag car, the 4L80E is the way to go. Drive to the track on overdrive and lockup, and run the first 3 gears at the track. Don't put any power through 4th gear though. I run 4.10 gears and still stay under 2600 RPM on the highway. My build
Like DblTrbl said "for a high HP cruiser and drag car, the 4L80E is the way to go" I agree. As far as fitment goes I am adding a 4L80E to a 72 automatic car.It had a 400 turbo in it. It will fit with banjo fittings, a slightly modified crossmember, and a shorter driveshaft. But like DblTrbl I too have LS swapped this car. If you need a high horsepower transmission that will come closer to fitting a late C3, the 700R4 (for a mechanical trans, and a 4L60E, a electronic option) Both can be built for over 1000 hp with sonnax parts, and you can get a triple disk stall convertor built. they would fit with no trans tunnel mods. So my understanding is if your car came with a 400 turbo, a 4L80E will fit.no trans tunnel mods But if it came with a 350 turbo, you will have to mod the tunnel, or use a 700R4/4L60E setup

This is my 4l80E with the banjo fittings and a flexible dipstick

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Little bit of work with a tubing bender gets stock trans dipstick here.


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Just a question on the banjo fittings. Do they cause any flow restrictions?
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I welded Swagelock 90 degree to the original fittings.

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Just a question on the banjo fittings. Do they cause any flow restrictions?
No restrictions
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You can mitigate any theoretical flow restrictions by marking the fittings and then orienting them, as you tighten them, such that the flowpath goes directly towards the outlet-- really a non-problem.

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Just a question on the banjo fittings. Do they cause any flow restrictions?
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I went with a 2004R built with extremeautomatics internal parts by my chosen tranny builder. EA says it will take 1000 HP and way more than my engine will produce. Take a look: https://extremeautomatics.com/index....ory&path=89_79
I also have a 4L80 that was custom build with a full manual valve body for competition. It has been proven bulletproof behind a BBC, but too heavy and way more than my C-3, 425 HP SBC needs. Just something to consider as an option for others contemplating the upgrade. Best of luck with your trans swap!
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Originally Posted by 79C3Vette
Want to do a 4l80e swap. Just wondering how much tunnel modification needs to be done, if any? I'm sure this has been answered many times but I don't see anything in the first couple pages. TIA.
I am planning on doing the same thing to My '75. I am now in the process of getting al the parts needed to do the swap, from What I have been reading is that if the car came with a th400 the 4l80e should fit without cutting.

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