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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 07:47 AM
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I have a leaky transmission oil pan gasket and am going to replace it with a Fel-Pro TOS-18621 one. Since the engine is out of the car being rebuilt this seems like an opportune time to do this. I am considering using the Mobile 1 synthetic ATF fluid as I believe synthetic oils perform better than conventional oils. Does anyone think this is a bad idea or think I should use a different ATF?

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Mobil 1 synthetic for me for years. Never had a tranny problem. I do change it & filter ever 35k miles which is probably overkill. One advantage to it is it handles heat better which is damaging to tranny's.
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I’d suggest having the converter hub seal and extension housing seal replaced, too. Synthetic oil is slippery stuff.



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Can you do this with the transmission in the car or does it need to be removed?
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Originally Posted by Miccar
Can you do this with the transmission in the car or does it need to be removed?
You can change the front seal after removing converter....but anytime I do them I remove front pump and change the pump bushing as well as the pump o-ring and gasket. If it's bone dry now, probably best to leave it alone. You'll have to pull driveshaft to change rear seal. The other sneaky place they leak is the shift shaft seal....often confused with a pan leak.

I wouldn't be so fast to add synthetic to an old trans especially if you're not hammering it hard. Old Dexron is good, Type F will firm up the shifts a little or race guys like John Deere Hy-guard hydraulic fluid for really good shifts. But they usually have better linings to handle it and want super firm shifts.

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Originally Posted by Motorvation
I’d suggest having the converter hub seal and extension housing seal replaced, too. Synthetic oil is slippery stuff.



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seals replace yes a good idea. PS. There is no such trans oil spec “slippery”
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Original Dexron was considered a "high lubricity" fluid to provide calmer shifts. Type F is considered a "high impact" fluid. They have different properties based on the trans design. If you defeat some of the features a T-400 has to calm the shifts it will bark the tires going into 3rd gear at 30 MPH at part throttle and jar your teeth.

For years Type F has been spec'd by places like B&M when installing a shift kit.

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Synthetic oil is the way to go for ALL moving part systems. Just make sure it is meant for transmissions. Also, make sure you change the tranny filter while you are in there.
You WILL see lots for fine, black "silt" in the pan. That is just normally worn-off clutch plate facing material.Just clean it out.
If you find shiny metal particles, Hmmmmm .... might be a problem brewing. Also, make sure the oil pan gasket surface is smooth and flat...particularly around the bolt holes. People over-torque pan bolts...to "help" them seal. This usually distorts the pan rail and makes it difficult to seal the next time.
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Not so quick. Too many people jump on the synthetic band wagon because it works so great in their 2000s daily driver.

Some of those 40 - 50 yr old parts are not so convinced its the greatest lube ever invented.

And lots of gaskets & seals dislike the syn.
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