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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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What do you think? He is missing the tri-power and has set it up, including hood, as L88.

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1969 427/435hp L89 ,Rare 400thm
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You are bidding on a rare vette this car was purchased by me 2/1990 .This car has gone through a 8yr. frame-off restoration. Everything is brand new or rebuilt ( engine,trans,and rearend) The color is Phantom Green the original color and saddle inside and Redlines.It is a numbers matching L89, Block no.T0113LW 19S71397. Trans no.69-362Y CY-69-1501.As you may tell by the picture this car has an L88 manifold,carb, air cleaner setup and hood. The tri-power setups can be found for about $1500.00 plus you can sell the L88 setup for good money.The body was never hit and all chrome has been rechromed. Underneath its all clean.The car has only been driven 300 miles in the last 1.5years. You can tell by the pictures its looking good.Dash and door panels are original except new carpet and storage compartment doors.Electrical has been gone thru and everything works. Original seatbelts are in car but not restored. Engine compartment looks clean but not perfectly detailed. This car has t-tops and popout rear window.The reserve is set very low. I would also be interested in a midyear/coupe trade in the same condition. My cell for any questions is Scott (608)575-4000
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Flavio,

This auction/car came up a few days ago.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=483304

Personally, I'd like to get a closer look at the car. Could be interesting...

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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Stan, If I am not mistaken this is the same car that has been for sale forever but as a factory L88. Now he is trying to sell it as an L89 :skep:
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Stan, If I am not mistaken this is the same car that has been for sale forever but as a factory L88. Now he is trying to sell it as an L89 :skep:
So if doesnt go as an L89 will he next try to sell it as an L98?
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 12:32 AM
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Steve, MJ,

That's exactly the reason why a person needs to inspect a car in detail before purchase. I have a friend who has had OUTSTANDING luck with cars purchsed sight unseen from Ebay (the 1969 Z-28/RS he picked up for $3500 has got to be one of the best buys of all time), but he is one of the few who has been this fortunate.

Hard to say what this particular car is... Which is the reason I would personally take a closer look if I were interested in it. :)

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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 01:18 AM
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I like the "Phantom Green." I wonder about anyone who owns a high dollar car, but doesn't know fairly easy specifics, such as "Fathom Green."

I'd want to see a picture of the tank sticker and the part, serial and date numbers. I have a feeling that this car is bogus, or a "bitsa car" (bitsa this, bitsa that.)

I've sold a number of cars on Ebay, but would never buy one. Too many snakes out there!
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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Flavio,

This auction/car came up a few days ago.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=483304

Personally, I'd like to get a closer look at the car. Could be interesting...

Regards,
D'oh! didn't see that one. Sorry. :thumbs:
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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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that is an aftermkt. L88 hood on it, wouldn't touch this vette at anywhere near that price without tank sticker and anyother documentation that can be found.
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I love that colour! :cool:
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I though 427/435 cars were 4spd only....
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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...wouldn't touch this vette at anywhere near that price without tank sticker and any other documentation that can be found.
gdh,

I'm not sure that I would even put that much faith in paper documentation exclusively anymore as just about every piece known to the Corvette hobby is being reproduced... Including "tank stickers".

Regardless, your point is a good one and well taken... Caveat emptor.

I though 427/435 cars were 4spd only...
garagedweller,

Chevrolet offered a special version of the Turbohydramatic 400 automatic transmission with the Corvette solid lifter big blocks during the 1969 model year. This transmission used a fully welded torque convertor with six attachment bolts and was designed for full throttle upshifts at 6200-6400 rpm.

This heavy duty automatic transmission was originally installed behind 50 L-78 Novas in 1968 under a COPO (the exact COPO number escapes me at the moment), but Chevrolet offered it in the full car line the following year. Corvettes with this transmission were coded "CY" while other Chevrolet applications were coded "CX"... The "CX" transmission equipped Chevys, while not common, are much easier to locate than the Corvette only "CY" units.

The number that I have heard for Corvettes produced for sale with the "CY" transmission is 255 units... My guess is that this includes all L-71/L-89/L-88/ZL-1 applications, but lacking any real documentation, it is only that... A guess.

I've seen a couple dozen "CY" transmission cars... Most of them are built late in the 1969 model year and I can think of only a couple built prior to the mid year strike in 1969. As I mentioned before, I'd really like to get a look at this car in person... It just might provide some interesting details for the database.

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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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... Including "tank stickers".

Hi Stan

Not on the market. Only reproduction available is window stickers.
Haven't seen any reproduction tank stickers yet.
I guess that for a potential high value car, someone would just try everything to reproduce original documentation.

Gunther
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Stan, I believe one "known" or "accepted" figure is "17" '69 L-88s with an automatic. I myself have seen three(I guess of the 17)in person.
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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I'd be more than happy to pick the car up and drive it home for someone :reddevil
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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Stan, one of my cars has the CY transmission and it's the only one of mine that I don't have any documentation on. The tank was replaced when I bought it and had a shipping label still attached from some dealer in Arkansas. The car was in Texas for some time also. I'm unsure of the origin. The gas tank replacement is a mystery since I've had the car for over 15 years and the tank looked fairly old an dirty when I got it. It seemed too early for the tank to have been rusty, yet the car had never been damaged.

Anyhow, this car was Fathom Green with tan leather, speed warning, tilt/tele, and a couple of other options that I can't recall. The CY transmission is still in the car and serial numbered to the car.

This car was painted burgundy when I got it. It had an aftermarket or either later model hood (long gone and don't remember) which eliminated the wiper door. The car had a couple of odd holes cut in the core support, and also in the rear compartment. I don't know if these were for some type aftermarket air conditioner, but there are no other abnormalities in the car, or any signs of screw holes in the interior. I keep thinking that if I chatter about it enough that somebody with some knowledge of it will run across the post.
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Gunther,

Believe it or not, just about every piece of paper documentation is available today as a "reproduction".... Window stickers, warranty books/protect-o-plates, dealer order forms, and tank stickers (as well as other oddball pieces that would have been created by the dealer at point of sale). It has been my experience that the creators of the "good" paperwork don't like to advertise (for good reason) and the items that are readily available from vendors are easy to spot.

Ten years ago, if a car had the paperwork listed above, it was pretty much ironclad proof that the car was what it was said to be. Unfortunately, such is not the case any more. A combination of paperwork, researched ownership history, and inspection of the car itself are your best bet to finding the "real deal". :)

I believe one "known" or "accepted" figure is "17" '69 L-88s with an automatic. I myself have seen three(I guess of the 17)in person.
See you in Stone Mountain???
Paul,

That figure for L-88s is what I have heard as well, but to be honest, I have no idea where it came from. Until somebody comes along with better information, that's as good a number as any! I've seen a few of the L-88/M-40 cars as well... One of the differences between them and the manual transmission L-88 cars is that the automatic L-88s use a copper radiator with a fan shroud (in all but one instance).

Yes... Looking forward to seeing you at Stone Mountain. Can't wait to see the new '68!

Anyhow, this car was Fathom Green with tan leather, speed warning, tilt/tele, and a couple of other options that I can't recall. The CY transmission is still in the car and serial numbered to the car.
Solidlifters,

Sounds like another neat car there... There are so few of those "CY" transmissions around and considering it was serial numbered to the car, it is almost certain that the car is what you believe it to be (which I'm sure you are already aware of since you still own it :) ). I don't know where your car fits in the production schedule, but most of the 1969 "CY" Corvettes that I have seen have been post strike cars... I bet that the last half dozen that I've seen were VERY late... In the 36,000 - 38,000 serial number range. Apparently, GM was trying to get rid of them before the end of the model year.

Keep plugging away with your history search... You never know where or who the next bit of information will come from.

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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I've been gonna post it in the info wanted section of the NCRS Driveline, but don't seem to get around to it. I'll try to remember to get the Vin # when I get to the office and post it.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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Stan, I finally got around to diggin' the 69 out enough to read the Vin #. It's in the 16500 range. That would seem to make it earlier than those you were talking about. Nobody in the past seemed to have any knowledge of restoring cars and I've had it for at least 15 years, so I'm certain that the trans. numbering is authentic.
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