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Old Nov 17, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what effect on my current alignment the installation of a Borgeson box would have.
Pretty much everything you come across says the car should have an alignment after the conversion is done.
My alignment is more or less where it should be and I'm basically maxed out on my caster now (at least on the passenger side at about 2.5, drivers side has a bit more movement but I made it match the passenger)
Anyway I've been thinking that other that possibly needing re-centering, why would anything else change?
Just pondering
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Old Nov 17, 2024 | 09:12 PM
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Your alignment should be OK, but pay close attention to your steering wheel. If you line it up the column using the stock marks, it will be almost upside down. I remember some instructions with mine for the correct line up marks.
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 07:18 AM
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Yeah that's what I've been thinking on the alignment, can't see how simply swapping the box can change anything (again, other than possibly the centering)
I've read about the steering wheel problem, haven't looked at it yet, some seem to mention it when sing part of the old rag-joint with the new one but again, I'll look into that a little more when I'm closer.
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 02:35 PM
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You have to delete the stock steering valve (yay!), and screw on the Borgeson adapter, or switch to a manual-style steering link. Even if all else stays the same, your steering center is likely to move.

Without mods, the Borgeson steering will be a LOT lighter. Now is the time to dial in more caster. Change out the upper A-arms if you need to I'm at 6 degrees with SPC adjustable UCAs.
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My recommendation is to slot the upper control arm cross shafts. The stock ones, after slotting, appear too weak in my opinion so I bought a set of beefy Global West shafts and slotted them slightly more than 1/4" to hopefully get 5 or 6 degrees of castor. This picture shows them after slotting.

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What arms did you use the GW shafts on?
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Originally Posted by Mooser
What arms did you use the GW shafts on?
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Planning on installing them on my stock powdercoated arms. I'll be installing the hydroboost/ borgeson steering at the same time.
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I've got the hydroboost already and I did my front suspension a while back so if I only had to swap out the shafts that wouldn't be too bad.
I'm also looking at reducing the flow to the borgeson but so far I've only seen the restrictor on the pump and I don't know what that'll do to the hydroboost.... Be nicer to restrict on the borgeson box only and leave the HB alone
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