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Old May 24, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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I'm installing a Sanden compressor with r-134 and trying to get the OE system merged with it.
My new wiring harness includes plugs for a blocking relay and anti dieseling relay (GM P/Ns 3996203 and 3996204). I have been told that GM has long since discontinued these relays.
Three questions:
1. What do these relays do and do I need either or both of these relays for an operable system?
2. If I do need them, where can I find them?
3. If I don't need them, how should I modify the wiring harness to take them out of the circuit?
Thanks for any help.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Some early years used the load of the A/C compressor to stop the engine from dieseling after shutdown by engaging the A/C compressor for a few seconds after the ignition was shut off. This was the function of the Anti-dieseling relay. I'm not familiar with the Blocking relay....
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Old May 24, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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The anti dieseling realy would serve no purpose on your car as with EFI there is no dieseling.

The blocking relay was used so that the full amperage of the AC clutch wouldn't have to go through the small switches in the center console. So you can get any automotive standard relay and use the wire from the center console as the control wire to the relay.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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You might send an email to suncr@pacbell.net. His forum name is SunCr, and he is active in the C4 forum. I don't know if he will read your A/C question in the C3 forum. He is a savy guy and very helpful.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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Zwede,
Thanks for checking in. As always, I appreciate your comments. Since I'm really ignorant about this stuff, I have a couple of specific questions in response to your comments.

On the Anti Diesel Relay, could you please look at your 71 wiring diagram and tell me which wires on the ADR plug I need to connect to take this relay out of the circuit. Or do I need to do anything to it?

When I go to the parts store for a relay for the blocking relay, should I ask for a single pole or double pole or what?

Did you make it out to the Raceway for the Lone Star Corvette meet?
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Old May 25, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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On the Anti Diesel Relay, could you please look at your 71 wiring diagram and tell me which wires on the ADR plug I need to connect to take this relay out of the circuit. Or do I need to do anything to it?
you don't need to do anything. Just leave it disconnected.

When I go to the parts store for a relay for the blocking relay, should I ask for a single pole or double pole or what?
Just a regular single pole. Usually called "Bosch style relay".


Did you make it out to the Raceway for the Lone Star Corvette meet?
Nope.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Zwede,
Good info - Thanks very much.
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