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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 01:12 AM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (ry)

OK first off a supercharger is an engine run, via turning, forced induction system, just like a turbocharger would be exhaust. This is eletric, i d ont know what you owuld call it, but not a supercharger, that wouldnt refer to it.
well in my days of pulling apart gadgets i am familiar with that type of fan. they are mostly used for cooling and ventilation. I dont mean that exact model, but that type where it is a barrel w/ slots cut in it that rotates. it pulls air to the out side of it, and into the shroud that looks like a turbo, then out the hole. we had a mini one on a spot light at our school, that fan was offcially called "the evil fan of death" because it liked to eat fingertips, and was right next the handle, thats why i say it WAS on our light. Thje fan type in very weak and im surprised it could even pull 150cfm. since it has no compression, it could attain no larger than 1.1 psi i would estimate. humm, who ever heard of a 1.1 psi charger. well at the amount our engines pull tha tfan would simply be an obsticle, and blocl the air. imagine taking thos little handheld personal cooling fans that kidds ahave and putting one fan in each barrel of your carb, then running them off of a watch battery, you would get the same effect w/ thois item. It is really just a fan and nothing more, if you truly belive hooking a fan similar to thos in the front of school busses to keep the driver cool, once installed in your air cleaner would add performance, well then you should buy this, cause it pushes even less air, and cant hold any type of psi. you would be better off glueing your chokes closed.

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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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BTW: there is atrue electric supercharger. It's a mercedes prototype that runs on their new 48 volt electrical systems that are due to come out soon. Saw a pic and read about it in road and crack or sumtin. It's powered directly off a monster alternater with a 2ga. wire running right to a massive (as in huge) electric magnet something or other. :reddevil
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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It looks like a blower out of the bilge of my boat. :eek:
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (ry)

I got a better idea!!! This is what Bubba would do for a supercharger. Get a couple of those 2-cycle leaf blowers and plumb them into your aircleaner! I can just see Bubba setting at a stop light next to some ricer, "Hey wait a minute boy, I gotta fire up my superchargers." :rofl:
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (ry)

If this POS really worked, wouldn't it cost a bit more? I'm a firm believer in "You get what you pay for".

OBTW, if cooling the intake air = more HP, then why hasn't someone plumbed the A/C into the air cleaner?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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It prolly has just enough power to rocket some small pebbles through your air cleaner into your intake......... :withstupid:
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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typically a turbo or supercharger will consume some percentage of engine power probably around 5% or more.

lets do some math.

400hp*.05(5 percent)=20hp

20hp*745 kw/hp= 14900 kw

14900 va/ 12v = 1241 amps

so it would consume over 1200 amps at 12 volts

a wire that would support 1200 amps would be over 1 inch in diameter.

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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you know, where the guy screwed up is marketing for chevy's. it's clearly a ricer thing. in all seriousness, it is conceveable a civic with two plummed in could see an ever so slight performance increase.....before the battery exploded. 150cfm is hardly enough for a kia, much less a SBC. what was this guy thinking? must be that anyone willing to gamble on this POS wouldn't be willing to call him snake oil salesman. :rolleyes:
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:20 AM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (Master Ho)

If this POS really worked, wouldn't it cost a bit more? I'm a firm believer in "You get what you pay for".

OBTW, if cooling the intake air = more HP, then why hasn't someone plumbed the A/C into the air cleaner?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The new Lightning is supposed to have a system that uses the AC to cool a charge of air that will give you extra boost at the push of a button.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (Sting Raycin)

If this POS really worked, wouldn't it cost a bit more? I'm a firm believer in "You get what you pay for".

OBTW, if cooling the intake air = more HP, then why hasn't someone plumbed the A/C into the air cleaner?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The new Lightning is supposed to have a system that uses the AC to cool a charge of air that will give you extra boost at the push of a button.
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I always thought that an intercooler was just that, an a/c like system that cooled the intake charge. Why no fans for intercoolers like an oil/trans cooler? :confused:
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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Page 112 in the July '03 R&T describes an e-boost system being developed by a company (Visteon); they admit it's not as good as conventional systems but that 2 kW can provide about 5.5 psi boost. 12 volt systems will have trouble with it but the new/proposed 42 VDC systems should manage it better. The article also says that BorgWarner and Garrett are working on it also. I would imagine it's be helpful for short-term power increases with smaller engines. Think hybrid...
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Shhhhhh don't tell the ricers!! We could make some money of them. maybe use this as the ad line.
First there was fart pipes, then super fast decals and now you too can kickit with your honey and be the fastest and most furious with the ELECTRIC SUPERCHARGER!

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Page 112 in the July '03 R&T describes an e-boost system being developed by a company (Visteon); they admit it's not as good as conventional systems but that 2 kW can provide about 5.5 psi boost. 12 volt systems will have trouble with it but the new/proposed 42 VDC systems should manage it better. The article also says that BorgWarner and Garrett are working on it also. I would imagine it's be helpful for short-term power increases with smaller engines. Think hybrid...

Or could provide boost at low rpm's to supplement a conventional supercharge. You could run in parallel and if the boost dropped below say 5
psi the elec one would kick on.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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Default Re: electric supercharger?? (ry)

let me tell you what i think. and i do not know for sure, but it looks like a heater blower motor. yes it will work to a degree. not too much pressure build up and the seller does not say how much boost you will get only amount of air it will push.
i did some thing like this in the early 60s on a oldsmobile,55. it worked well for a low cost, about $50. toy. i had fun with it as you can. a supercharger it is not.
take that idea one step further. more HP to turn the vanes and you will have something. get it rotating about 2000rpm and watch out. you will need a blow off valve to stop the realy high boost you are going to get.
if you build one let me know as you do it. i'll give you some ideas along the way. you must think this out 100% before you start. good luck. :smash:
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