Install engine with tranny attached or separate
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Heel & Toe
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From: Sandusky Ohio
Install engine with tranny attached or separate
There are alot of local opinions about this so a few more won't hurt.
Removed engine and tranny separately from my '71.
Time to reinstall. What is easier/safer: with tranny attached or not.
Have engine lift with leveler but concerned about lifting all of that above my new paint job.
I know, I know, should have installed before I got it painted! :nono:
Removed engine and tranny separately from my '71.
Time to reinstall. What is easier/safer: with tranny attached or not.
Have engine lift with leveler but concerned about lifting all of that above my new paint job.
I know, I know, should have installed before I got it painted! :nono:
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (afun'71)
My preference is to install engine/trans together from above. You install both as a unit and less cursing involved :cuss
Question: Auto or manual trans? If manual and you choose to install the engine and trans separately, it is normally easier to install the individual manual trans, bell housing, clutch and flywheel than to attempt to install the heavy/awkward auto trans and converter.
Question: Auto or manual trans? If manual and you choose to install the engine and trans separately, it is normally easier to install the individual manual trans, bell housing, clutch and flywheel than to attempt to install the heavy/awkward auto trans and converter.
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Heel & Toe
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From: Sandusky Ohio
Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (TedH)
Thanks for the reply. It is a 4 speed. I am told if install together that the front of the car needs jacked up so can get the angle correct while inserting with the tranny.
it just appears to be much easier to do separately but am told could have difficulty getting the spline to seat properly.
it just appears to be much easier to do separately but am told could have difficulty getting the spline to seat properly.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (afun'71)
Absolutely, without a doubt, together. It adds approx 200lbs of weight, but it is a h*ell of a lot easier to get those six bellhousing bolts and (if automatic) converter to trans splines together sitting on the ground or as I prefer, on some old tires. I can see no good reason to do seperately. Even if the engine had been taken out before by itself, I would still remove the transmission, attach the two outside the car, and re-install.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (afun'71)
Depends on what you are using to install it and how much room you have to work with. I have done it multiple times unattached with the tranny being left in from the removal and find it not so hard other than mating the splines. My cherry picker did not like having the trans on the one time I tried and I did not like the angle I had to crank them to. Plus the 4 speed cross member is not removalable so you have to get the trans tail shaft up in order to clear the cross member, not an easy task by yourself. I prefer leaving them unattached.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (Fevre)
I installed mine this last winter as one unit. Motor and tranny. I just had two buddies working the cherry picker and I was under the car on my back guiding everything into place just where I wanted it to be. If I were to do it again, I wouldn't change a thing. Motor and tranny together. Mine is a 4 speed also.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (vettemack)
I dropped the SB into my 75 withouth tranny (becuase i bought it without a motor and the tranny was already in). I know that many less f.u.k.s.h.i.t.s would have been distributed if i had installed both together. :yesnod:
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (GDaina)
Attached...no need to jack the car...but one useful tool to have is a leveler
Did mine without a leveler, but had about 6 buddies over so there were plenty of eyes and hands.
There's a picture or two at my web site.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (no_radio)
I don't think it really matters, although I'd be sure to have the bellhousing setup with the block if installing seperately.
When I put my motor in, we installed the engine/tranny as a unit and it was OK. Since then, I've had the tranny out a couple of times and it's not too bad to stab in from under. It's only about 50 lbs and is not a big deal to bench press in. We did have a load leveler, but we fought with it plenty to make up the difference. Maybe, I just had a cheap leveler, I dunno.
I'd definately have the front jacked up so you (or someone else) can help guide the tranny in place from underneath.
When I put my motor in, we installed the engine/tranny as a unit and it was OK. Since then, I've had the tranny out a couple of times and it's not too bad to stab in from under. It's only about 50 lbs and is not a big deal to bench press in. We did have a load leveler, but we fought with it plenty to make up the difference. Maybe, I just had a cheap leveler, I dunno.
I'd definately have the front jacked up so you (or someone else) can help guide the tranny in place from underneath.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (BeaterShark)
Here's another vote for altogether. I hate trying to work in crammed spaces and also when it's apart you have 2 times to worry about scratching the paint...together you only have to worry about it once.
Here's a pic just before pulling
And another while putting in
Here's a pic just before pulling
And another while putting in
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (tshort)
Together, but you absolutely MUST have a leveler/tipper. Get a good one, one with the spiral screw and handle. DON'T buy a cheapo....the kind with the cables and the ratchet. Chuck
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (Chuck Gongloff)
The one I have does have a spiral screw and handle. It still required a lot of effort and time to get it to tip the combo right and just about wore out my arm cranking on that darn thing.
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Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (afun'71)
Last time I had mine out, I put the engine and trans back in as a unit. Went GREAT! Had a leveler, too though. Not sure I'd attempt it without one.
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From: Sandusky Ohio
Re: Install engine with tranny attached or separate (afun'71)
Seems like together wins the vote. I do have the screw type leveler with the crank and a few buddys left that I have not wore out yet. :cheers: