Stock tie rod lengths
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Melting Slicks
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From: Boulder Creek California
Stock tie rod lengths
Does anyone know off the top of their head (or notes, yes this is an open-book test) the center-to-center length of our stock tierods? Don't worry about going out and measuring, as I can easily do that, just looking to be lazy :yesnod:
If you're wonderin', I'm planning to replace with Heim ends, spaced to aid bumpsteer.
Thanks!
Chris
If you're wonderin', I'm planning to replace with Heim ends, spaced to aid bumpsteer.
Thanks!
Chris
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Re: Stock tie rod lengths (RUXperienced)
I will be under my car this afternoon, I am going riding this morning and having a visitor this afternoon. Steve Cardwell. I can easily measure the exact length of the old tie rods. I could also give you the length of new nicer aluminum sleeves that you could order cheaply from coleman.
Give me till late this afternoon to give you all the particulars on what you want.
Give me till late this afternoon to give you all the particulars on what you want.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Re: Stock tie rod lengths (RUXperienced)
Stock tie rod length center to center 15.5 inches. A 5/8th heim joint likes about 1 5/8 center of joint to sleeve, stock tie rod center to face of sleeve 2.5 inches. Outer tie rod or heim joint LEFT hand threads, stock tie rod sleeve 10 3/4 inches.
Doing the math a new replacement sleeve for using a heim joint on one end and the stock tie rod on the other you get an 11 inch sleeve, # RP-127-11 from coleman racing , cost $9.05.
5/8th heim joint left hand #931-LM Cost $11.85 from Coleman. 2 left hand jam nuts 941-L Cost $.70.
You also need 2 5/8th bolts, 3.5 inches long and 2 locking nuts.
A 1 inch long spacer 1 1/4 inches diameter works as a good spacer.
I would remove the steering arms and they come out with just 2 bolts, Weld the 1 inch spacer to the steering arm and drill the arm and spacer to 5/8 inch with a prentise drill.
This removes most of the bump steer on out vets or at least reduces it to alot less then a new mustang.
This is the welded on spacer and I also cut the end of the steering arm off and ground it to round everything off.
Double click to enlarge
[Modified by norvalwilhelm, 3:15 PM 1/24/2004]
Doing the math a new replacement sleeve for using a heim joint on one end and the stock tie rod on the other you get an 11 inch sleeve, # RP-127-11 from coleman racing , cost $9.05.
5/8th heim joint left hand #931-LM Cost $11.85 from Coleman. 2 left hand jam nuts 941-L Cost $.70.
You also need 2 5/8th bolts, 3.5 inches long and 2 locking nuts.
A 1 inch long spacer 1 1/4 inches diameter works as a good spacer.
I would remove the steering arms and they come out with just 2 bolts, Weld the 1 inch spacer to the steering arm and drill the arm and spacer to 5/8 inch with a prentise drill.
This removes most of the bump steer on out vets or at least reduces it to alot less then a new mustang.
This is the welded on spacer and I also cut the end of the steering arm off and ground it to round everything off.
Double click to enlarge
[Modified by norvalwilhelm, 3:15 PM 1/24/2004]
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Re: Stock tie rod lengths (RUXperienced)
RUXperienced if you are planing to do this it is important to check toe BEFORE and make it equal the same AFTE. If you are going to do this lets talk about it first to make sure you don't screw up the toe, nothing else is bother but it is nice to check bump before and after and also set toe yourself.
Post of it before changing anything and I can list the steps if you go this route.
With this setup alone I ended up with bump up maximum of 5/16th and bump down of .015. This none straight line showed the tie rod sleeves were not right but it was alot better then before.
Post of it before changing anything and I can list the steps if you go this route.
With this setup alone I ended up with bump up maximum of 5/16th and bump down of .015. This none straight line showed the tie rod sleeves were not right but it was alot better then before.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Boulder Creek California
Re: Stock tie rod lengths (norvalwilhelm)
Great, that is what I got as well, as accurate as I could measure with a tape measure. I'll definitely let you know when I order the parts and get started. I would like to check toe myself, I already have a dial gauge. Alot of this stuff sounds really intimidating, but so did the frontend rebuild, which was really a piece of cake.
As for now, I have a speeding ticket, new tires, and an alignment to pay for, here's my tires when I got back from NC (by way of Bowling Green and the NCM):
As for now, I have a speeding ticket, new tires, and an alignment to pay for, here's my tires when I got back from NC (by way of Bowling Green and the NCM):
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