Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (greentanker)
My rear end is a .336. How do you think that would perform? Is there a better system available than the Kiesler.tremec tko??
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (MassVette)
$3000.00 ???
:crazy:
Jeesh- I paid $2800 for my Richmond 6 speed close-ratio, with a choice of 3 overdrive ratios! And it's a bolt-in.
:yesnod: :chevy :chevy :yesnod:
:crazy:
Jeesh- I paid $2800 for my Richmond 6 speed close-ratio, with a choice of 3 overdrive ratios! And it's a bolt-in.
:yesnod: :chevy :chevy :yesnod:
Yep, the price seems pretty outrageous even if they do provide a drive shaft and an offset shifter.
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (greentanker)
My rear end is a .336. How do you think that would perform? Is there a better system available than the Kiesler.tremec tko??
Look for past topics by "Norval" concerning the 5speed conversion. He has done many mods to his car and switched from 4:11 gears to 3:08 after the Tremek conversion. Don't give up on the TKO, you should be fine with 3:36 gears.
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (64_365)
$3000.00 ???
Jeesh- I paid $2800 for my Richmond 6 speed close-ratio, with a choice of 3 overdrive ratios! And it's a bolt-in.
Please enlighten me. I'm also thinking of the TKO 5spd. and if I can have a 6spd with overdrive and NOT have to cut the crossmember I'm all ears. Please reply.
David
[Modified by Cali,68,L-79, 5:39 PM 2/4/2004]
Jeesh- I paid $2800 for my Richmond 6 speed close-ratio, with a choice of 3 overdrive ratios! And it's a bolt-in.
Please enlighten me. I'm also thinking of the TKO 5spd. and if I can have a 6spd with overdrive and NOT have to cut the crossmember I'm all ears. Please reply.
David
[Modified by Cali,68,L-79, 5:39 PM 2/4/2004]
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (Cali,68,L-79)
IMO the TKO is perfect with a 3.08 (big-block) or 3.36 (small block) rear gear. With my 3.08 gears I find myself shifting every 10 mph. 1 st gear upto 20mph, 2nd to 30, 3rd to 40 etc. I didn't like my muncie M20 because 1st was not steep enough. If there was stop & go traffic I had to slip the clutch constantly. The TKO 1st gear is perfect.
I went with the regular GM TKO, not Keisler. My total cost including shortened driveshaft, conversion U-joint etc was right at $2k.
I went with the regular GM TKO, not Keisler. My total cost including shortened driveshaft, conversion U-joint etc was right at $2k.
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (zwede)
Right now my sights are set on the TKO however if this Richmond 6spd. is less, can be ordered with a 0.68 OD gear, requires no crossmember modification and is as easy as the TKO I'll certainly consider it.
GO ON SPEAK UP!!
ttt
GO ON SPEAK UP!!
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (Cali,68,L-79)
No, you have to cut the crossmember for the richmond 6. It is $2800. It also has an external shift linkage which is not as smooth as the tremecs internal rail. The torque rating of the richmond is less than the TKO.
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (greentanker)
I have been thinking about changing to a five speed for some time. The kit looks good. I finally decied that I was going to keep the four speed The fact of the matter is my car has so much torque I really only need 3rd gear.
[Modified by wayne_69_427, 9:48 PM 2/4/2004]
[Modified by wayne_69_427, 9:48 PM 2/4/2004]
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (zwede)
No, you have to cut the crossmember for the richmond 6. It is $2800. It also has an external shift linkage which is not as smooth as the tremecs internal rail. The torque rating of the richmond is less than the TKO.
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (zwede)
I am not too impressed with Kiesler so far. It has taken them more than 10 days to get the invoice to me so I can send them the $1000 deposit, (havent received it yet),I wonder how long the transmission will take. Do you have time to get me started in the correct direction to order the parts from G M (or whoever)? Did you have your driveshaft shortened or buy a new one? What was your source for the shifter ect?? Thanks for any help you can give.
Ben
Ben
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (Cali,68,L-79)
I used a R.O.D. close ratio (2:77:1 1st) with the .62 o/d on in my '79 -along with a 500+ HP 502, CenterForce Dual Friction clutch, stock driveshaft(with a TH 400 front yoke) and the stock 3:55 posi rear end. I've had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever.
And when I drive it, I'm not out getting groceries!
:yesnod: :lol: :lol: :yesnod:
I liked the setup SO much that I installed it in the '67 roadster project- along with an HO 454 and the stock 3:70 posi BB rear end. I did not cut the crossmember, or the floor in the install. It's a tight fit in the C-2, but it works.
I've got nothing but positive things to say about both installs, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
:yesnod: :chevy :chevy :yesnod:
Oh, yeah- I installed the ROD in the '67 along with the motor.............
The '79 has a removeable crossmember -(it was an A/T car). The trans is the same l/o/a as the Muncie or T-10, but the belly is longer to accomodate the extra gearsets. I moved the mount pad to the front of the c-member. The shifter is in the stock location.
Here's a pic of the '67 install..........
:chevy :chevy
And when I drive it, I'm not out getting groceries!
:yesnod: :lol: :lol: :yesnod:
I liked the setup SO much that I installed it in the '67 roadster project- along with an HO 454 and the stock 3:70 posi BB rear end. I did not cut the crossmember, or the floor in the install. It's a tight fit in the C-2, but it works.
I've got nothing but positive things to say about both installs, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
:yesnod: :chevy :chevy :yesnod:
Oh, yeah- I installed the ROD in the '67 along with the motor.............
The '79 has a removeable crossmember -(it was an A/T car). The trans is the same l/o/a as the Muncie or T-10, but the belly is longer to accomodate the extra gearsets. I moved the mount pad to the front of the c-member. The shifter is in the stock location.
Here's a pic of the '67 install..........
:chevy :chevy
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (MassVette)
I moved the mount pad to the front of the c-member. The shifter is in the stock location.
Here's a pic of the '67 install..........
:chevy :chevy
Here's a pic of the '67 install..........
:chevy :chevy
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (zwede)
No, you have to cut the crossmember for the richmond 6. It is $2800. It also has an external shift linkage which is not as smooth as the tremecs internal rail. The torque rating of the richmond is less than the TKO.
- No cutting of the frame (and driveshaft)
- No external linkage
- Higher torque rating
:D
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (MassVette)
Here's one for ya. If one wants to keep the Vette close to matching #'s can you remove the Muncie and replace the 4th 1/1 gear with a 0.68??? Are the gears keyed onto the shaft or forged??? That way you have a stock lokking 4spd. and for you 3.70 rear gear guys like myself just a bit of a gap between 3rd at over 35mph to 45 into 4th (.068).
Anyone tried that, stupid idea. Please comment.
Le Mans Master
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Re: Kiesler Tremic tko 5 speed (zwede)
Nope. 4th is direct drive and that means the input and output shafts are locked together. No gears involved.
