"Power Shifting"?
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From: Wilmington nc
Re: "Power Shifting"? (lostpatrolman)
So what you’re saying is the majority is always right?
That’s an odd thought…Good thing Columbus didn’t think like you!!
The majority of people call Locking pliers, Vicegrips
The majority of people call Arc Joint Pliers, Channel Locks
The majority of people call Sterile Bandage Strips, Band-Aids
The majority of people call Inline Skates, Roller Blades
The majority of people call Acetylsalicylic Acid, Aspirin
The majority of people call Hand-Held Portable Stereos, Walkmans
The majority of people call Plastic Flying Disks, A Frisbee (trade marked by Wham-o, a little trivia for you)
The majority of people call Tissue Paper, Kleenex
I am not saying who is right and who is wrong, I am just saying majority is not always right….The earth was not flat, and just because the majority of people call it something does not mean that's what it is. :)
[Modified by Blue70, 9:21 AM 3/28/2004]
That’s an odd thought…Good thing Columbus didn’t think like you!!
The majority of people call Locking pliers, Vicegrips
The majority of people call Arc Joint Pliers, Channel Locks
The majority of people call Sterile Bandage Strips, Band-Aids
The majority of people call Inline Skates, Roller Blades
The majority of people call Acetylsalicylic Acid, Aspirin
The majority of people call Hand-Held Portable Stereos, Walkmans
The majority of people call Plastic Flying Disks, A Frisbee (trade marked by Wham-o, a little trivia for you)
The majority of people call Tissue Paper, Kleenex
I am not saying who is right and who is wrong, I am just saying majority is not always right….The earth was not flat, and just because the majority of people call it something does not mean that's what it is. :)
[Modified by Blue70, 9:21 AM 3/28/2004]
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From: Maple
Re: "Power Shifting"? (Blue70)
i do it once i awhile..the more i hear about how bad it is for your tranny, the more i am afraid to do it....the second to third shift kinda scares me too....
went from second to first instead of third in my Shelby Z years ago doing this and scared the crap out of myself...
went from second to first instead of third in my Shelby Z years ago doing this and scared the crap out of myself...
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Re: "Power Shifting"? (Grinchia)
Regardless of what you call it, do NOT attempt it with the stock type shifter found in a C3. You will NOT be happy.
If such things are high on your "to do" list, upgrade to a B&M or Hurst shifter...
If such things are high on your "to do" list, upgrade to a B&M or Hurst shifter...
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Re: "Power Shifting"? (Grinchia)
You don't use the clutch. On a synchro trans its real easy when you get into the proper shift range; it almost drops into gear. I used to do it on my daily driver to avoid clutch wear.
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From: Ann Arbor MI
Re: "Power Shifting"? (gliot1)
Listen to Fasglas... I knows what he is talking about.
I used to do a lot of street racing when I was a kid. (I'm now 53) I tried power shifting my vette - just for old time sake - and completely missed the shift. Cost me a tranny rebuild.
I used to do a lot of street racing when I was a kid. (I'm now 53) I tried power shifting my vette - just for old time sake - and completely missed the shift. Cost me a tranny rebuild.
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Re: "Power Shifting"?
I used to powershift my '90 & '91 Berettas with some regularity. Always fun! :shifting:
Melting Slicks
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Re: "Power Shifting"? (ddecart)
I used to powershift my '90 & '91 Berettas with some regularity. Always fun! :shifting:
Steve :steering:
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From: San Jose California
Re: "Power Shifting"? (gliot1)
gliot1,
Shifting smoothly without the clutch can be done if your timing and technique is perfect, but this requires the engine to drop rpm's to the precise match for the next gear at that speed. This takes time for the engine to spin down, largely dependent on the reciprocating mass of the engine. i.e. heavy flywheels take longer than engines with light flywheels.
Power shifting works the synchros very hard because you are not allowing the engine any time to drop the 1000-1500rpm difference usually found between the gears at the same mph. Power shifting does put a strain on the entire power train; but, as was said, it is very addicting. done well, it is also much quicker getting down the quarter mile. Road racers generally do not power shift unless making a dash to the finish line, but they do typically have light weight components that allow the engine to match revs, up or down, very quickly so that shifting without working the synchros (if they have any) is still just about as fast as you can pull back the stick, snick-snick. Such shifts are typically very smooth.
Chuck
Shifting smoothly without the clutch can be done if your timing and technique is perfect, but this requires the engine to drop rpm's to the precise match for the next gear at that speed. This takes time for the engine to spin down, largely dependent on the reciprocating mass of the engine. i.e. heavy flywheels take longer than engines with light flywheels.
Power shifting works the synchros very hard because you are not allowing the engine any time to drop the 1000-1500rpm difference usually found between the gears at the same mph. Power shifting does put a strain on the entire power train; but, as was said, it is very addicting. done well, it is also much quicker getting down the quarter mile. Road racers generally do not power shift unless making a dash to the finish line, but they do typically have light weight components that allow the engine to match revs, up or down, very quickly so that shifting without working the synchros (if they have any) is still just about as fast as you can pull back the stick, snick-snick. Such shifts are typically very smooth.
Chuck
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From: I can walk to MA
Re: "Power Shifting"? (Chuck Harmon)
I'm just glad my TH400 does the power shifting for me. :yesnod:
This post reminds me of college days ... snapped the clutch cable on my Pinto.
I drove home 30 miles - Boston streets, street lights, highway rush hour -
all with NO clutch. It's fun starting the car in first gear from the light. :lol:
:seeya
This post reminds me of college days ... snapped the clutch cable on my Pinto.
I drove home 30 miles - Boston streets, street lights, highway rush hour -
all with NO clutch. It's fun starting the car in first gear from the light. :lol:
:seeya
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Re: "Power Shifting"? (Grinchia)
Oh yeah, I love power shifting! I think my next transmission will be a dog ring type so I can clutchless shift as well. Rowing thru the gears is a hoot.
