Stahl Sidemount headers.
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Melting Slicks
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Stahl Sidemount headers.
Big Block Check out the tubes on the big block :D
Small Block
The heads can be purchased in a high port configuration, guess that is for raised port heads?
Anyone running these?
http://www.stahlheaders.com
[Modified by 74 vert, 6:48 PM 4/30/2004]
Small Block
The heads can be purchased in a high port configuration, guess that is for raised port heads?
Anyone running these?
http://www.stahlheaders.com
[Modified by 74 vert, 6:48 PM 4/30/2004]
C6 the C5 of tomorrow
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From: Twin Cities Minnesota
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (74 vert)
I was going to buy a set but decided to make my own.
It ended up being more expensive to make them!
Probably better than mine too :banghead:
It ended up being more expensive to make them!
Probably better than mine too :banghead:
Instructor
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From: Stony Plain AB.
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (ram82fire)
I wish they had the look of the Hooker side mounts where you can see the four primaries twist and blend into one at the front of the sidepipe.
I am looking for a set that will fit my AFR 220 heads.
I am looking for a set that will fit my AFR 220 heads.
Burning Brakes
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From: shawnee ks
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (John Dirks)
Those are my new exhaust system I had jeri make using the single exit pipe. suppose to flow better than the hooker? Mine are hpc coated ,than right before the turn out I made all stainless bends and sidepipes. Will post pics soon.
Pro
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From: St. Louis MO
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (big632)
You mean these :D
just a few tuning dents to get them to slide in around the Jeep Cherokee powersteering box and you have to trim up the header flange to get them over the ARP head bolts/studs and the #3 spark plug will need a little extra tuning clearance or you'll never get a socket in there.
just a few tuning dents to get them to slide in around the Jeep Cherokee powersteering box and you have to trim up the header flange to get them over the ARP head bolts/studs and the #3 spark plug will need a little extra tuning clearance or you'll never get a socket in there.
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From: St. Louis MO
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (big632)
They aren't? I bought the finish it youself kit to save a little money and used a 3.5" collector instead of the 4". I had them HPC Coated over the winter while I was swapping out to a thinner head gasket.
Instructor
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From: Corrales, NM
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (big632)
Hi all!
I have Stahl's on my 420 SBC. Getting them to fit was a horror story. One side was was 2" too high in fact you could not open the door. Jer said that that my car must have been at fault because his headers were never off. He charged me to make an extension and the shipping both ways. I have never met a business that was less service oriented. I grew up watching him run race and always had the complete respect for the man but after my experience I would never recommend his products. I have heard that his BBC headers fit much better. I recall one other Forum member having similar problems.
Good Luck!
Ken
Albuquerque
I have Stahl's on my 420 SBC. Getting them to fit was a horror story. One side was was 2" too high in fact you could not open the door. Jer said that that my car must have been at fault because his headers were never off. He charged me to make an extension and the shipping both ways. I have never met a business that was less service oriented. I grew up watching him run race and always had the complete respect for the man but after my experience I would never recommend his products. I have heard that his BBC headers fit much better. I recall one other Forum member having similar problems.
Good Luck!
Ken
Albuquerque
Melting Slicks
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From: Wisconsin
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (74 vert)
I can't help but think that just getting some shorty/block hugger/street rod headers would be the easiest, then just put an elbow on it angle it out. Would also allow for better clearance.
Le Mans Master
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From: Fremont CA
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (Twin_Turbo)
Stahls are the BEST! The primary pipe length is CORRECT where the Hookers are too long! The Stahls will make better power but do not have the 4 into 1 look of the Hookers. Stahl pricing is on his website, the headers are around $960 the last time I priced them and about $1300 with the side pipes. The side pipes are only 3 or 3.5" in diameter, so they look small compared to the Hooker 4" stuff but Stahl will not compromise his design for price or loss of performance. The quality is beyond comparison, I have never had a fit problem with Stahl headers on a car with a straight body/frame assemmbly. The customer service is not the best but the power potential is second to none! Hookers are too big and too long in the primary pipes for proper power, they make OK power but Stahls should make better bottom end and mid range power (in the order of 12-18 HP across the entire power range is what I would expect the Stahls to make over the Hooker side mounts.) The above being said, the Hookers at under $400 for the side mounts are a good bargin (make your own sidepipes from 4" pipe from a truck supply store.)
Pro
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From: St. Louis MO
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (John Dirks)
The stahls are 2 1/8" x 29. Hookers are 2 1/8" x 45". Hookers are way to long for anything other than looks. And in my opinion the stahls are too short for a low rev street engine. But the better of the two evils. Somewhere in the 32" to 35" range is more to my liking.
The stahls can be ordered with 3 1/2" or 4" collectors. Since i am running a smaller engine I opted for the 3 1/2" collectors to help out the bottom end since the primaries are so short. Larger engines would tend to like the larger pipes.
Stahls products are excelent quality, and the parts looked really nice, but I can't say thier packaging techniques are very desireable.
The stahls can be ordered with 3 1/2" or 4" collectors. Since i am running a smaller engine I opted for the 3 1/2" collectors to help out the bottom end since the primaries are so short. Larger engines would tend to like the larger pipes.
Stahls products are excelent quality, and the parts looked really nice, but I can't say thier packaging techniques are very desireable.
Racer
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From: Anchorage Alaska
Re: Stahl Sidemount headers. (Solid LT1)
Solid, Your comments are always informative, and I appreciate them. It doesn't look like you've got side-pipes on your car, so I assume you've had them on a different C-3?