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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Just curious what fuel people are running in there 427's.
(race fuel 103 octane) or (93 with octane boost)
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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I run max lead 2000 (real lead) I mix the amount it take to get approx. 100 octane. ( in Amoco 93) No pinging in warm weather, and about 20% gain in fuel milage, got rid of exhaust odors to not to mention how much better it runs.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by biggvette
Just curious what fuel people are running in there 427's.
When I was in the Air Force, they used 130 octane (green) AVGAS. They then changed to 100LL (100 octane low lead, blue) AVGAS. It smelt different to the green AVGAS but performed as well as the green.

Out here in Saudi, it's is supposedly unleaded fuel, but I'm running a warm 400 small block in my '82 and without any timing mods or anything, the fuel out here runs beautifully. I mentioned the AVGAS above because the fuel here smells EXACTLY like the 100LL we used to use...

I've no idea what it actually is, but it isn't like unleaded I've used anywhere else in the world!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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I run a mixture of 110 race fuel and premium unleaded. 50/50.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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LarryB., THAT 's just exactly what I"m talking about, if they'd put the damn lead back in gasolines, there would BE no fuel crunch....

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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I use the real lead, too, and I've mixed in blue avgas in the past and that works good (though it's technically illegal to run avgas in a car & you need to have a connection at the airport usually to get the stuff). Truth is, once I replaced my slipped harmonic balancer, which was causing me to set the timing too far advanced, I run fine on plain old Shell 93 octane for nine months out of the year, and only need the extra octane in the summer.

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Ok, Thanks.
I just read on the net that it is better to buy race fuel than to do it yourself. "Mix of toluene(octane boost) and pump gas costs you performance and throttle response due to slow burn speed". Thats what it said.

I was thinking of buying 103 octane and mix it with pump gas and trying to make it around 100 octane. whatcha think.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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I think that's just fine. The only problems with it are that race gas is hard to get for most people unless you live near a track and it's expensive as hell. If you can get your hands on blue avgas, it's half the price of race gas, and the real lead (which isn't toulene, it's tetraethyl lead) is even cheaper per gallon.

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Originally Posted by biggvette
Ok, Thanks.
I just read on the net that it is better to buy race fuel than to do it yourself. "Mix of toluene(octane boost) and pump gas costs you performance and throttle response due to slow burn speed". Thats what it said.

I was thinking of buying 103 octane and mix it with pump gas and trying to make it around 100 octane. whatcha think.
I've tried toluene, which you get at paint stores. It works just as well but I wouldn't mix in more than a 10% mix to street gas personally. I think the issue with slow burn speed is really just a component of the nature of high octane - it burns slower and that keeps the engine from knocking. In other words any high octane source (race gas, avi fuel, etc) will have a slow burn speed and that's what high octane is all about. The point in that quote from the net you read is - don't raise your octane if you don't need it because it will be WORSE for your car. That is a message really for all those crazy ricers who think putting race gas in there honda's will improve performance. Us with high compression cars need the stuff. By the way toulene is in ALL pump gas sold at the gas station, just in lessor degrees.

Anyways to answer your orignal question I would (and do if I run at the strip) use race gas and mix it in with 93 octane because at least you know you still have all those additives for the street.

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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My 11-1 427`s use 93/94 premium and no additives at around 36 total lead, no vacuum advance. The big guys, L88`s and the LS7 at 12.5-1, I use aviation 100. Also with out vacuum and all run great.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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JB.... Mine runs good in cooler weather without any additive but like you I need it in the heat of the summer .. especially here in Floriduh.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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ok thanks guys. By the way thats my car in the picture. Hugo Prado did a corvette print of it. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by biggvette
ok thanks guys. By the way thats my car in the picture. Hugo Prado did a corvette print of it. Seriously.
Nice vette. On a side note, I know my stepdad had to run airplane fuel in his '64. He doesn't drive it anymore, so I don't know the details. I run 87 octane pump gas in my '75 8.5/1 compression. 165hp, oh yeah
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