C6 at the dragstrip
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C6 at the dragstrip
The C6 attracted a big crowd at the dragstrip yesterday.
Still had temp plates on it! This car barely had 500 miles on it. It was a 6 spd, precision red (already discontinued) owned by Cartek - soon will be heavily modded.
getting ready to go......
He comes around towards the starting line......
staged ..... even with traction control off apparently you can't turn off "torque" management, so he couldn't do a burnout.
OK - I know you expected him to be in the 12s, but this was his FIRST pass!!
(but there were a pair of showroom stock mercs (the ones that look just like a Crossfire) that were well into the 12s!
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It was BUICK day also at the track! Some real sweet cars... but here are just a few of the vettes... C6 at the back..
Hey!! too bad I missed having a midyear in this pic... would have had every generation...
Still had temp plates on it! This car barely had 500 miles on it. It was a 6 spd, precision red (already discontinued) owned by Cartek - soon will be heavily modded.
getting ready to go......
He comes around towards the starting line......
staged ..... even with traction control off apparently you can't turn off "torque" management, so he couldn't do a burnout.
OK - I know you expected him to be in the 12s, but this was his FIRST pass!!
(but there were a pair of showroom stock mercs (the ones that look just like a Crossfire) that were well into the 12s!
)It was BUICK day also at the track! Some real sweet cars... but here are just a few of the vettes... C6 at the back..
Hey!! too bad I missed having a midyear in this pic... would have had every generation...
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On the C5, with traction control turned off via the DIC; you can spin the tires to hell and back.
Looks more and more like a driver issue.
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13.4 sec, about right for the HP and weight of the car.
Anyway I think GM must have hired the ex-Tiburon styling engineers that were fired a few years ago, either that or that guy backed into a wall
You would think with all the time and money spent on the car they would finish off the rear end.
Anyway I think GM must have hired the ex-Tiburon styling engineers that were fired a few years ago, either that or that guy backed into a wall
You would think with all the time and money spent on the car they would finish off the rear end.
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
13.4 sec, about right for the HP and weight of the car.
Anyway I think GM must have hired the ex-Tiburon styling engineers that were fired a few years ago, either that or that guy backed into a wall
You would think with all the time and money spent on the car they would finish off the rear end.
Anyway I think GM must have hired the ex-Tiburon styling engineers that were fired a few years ago, either that or that guy backed into a wall
You would think with all the time and money spent on the car they would finish off the rear end.
A good driver should be able to get the car into the 12's on a decent track...
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Originally Posted by Corey_68
I agree but you would think the guys at Cartek could drive. 
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106mph is lame. Stock LS1 C5s run faster than that, even in the heat here in TX. I don't care about the ET, since that's a function of driver/track prep, etc.
The C6s that have been on the dyno are showing 335+rwhp (rated at 400bhp). The C5 Z06 (rated at 405hp) makes ~355+rwhp stock. Hmm....
Whatever... 335rwhp, 3180lb car, decent air... should be 112mph through the traps easily.
The C6s that have been on the dyno are showing 335+rwhp (rated at 400bhp). The C5 Z06 (rated at 405hp) makes ~355+rwhp stock. Hmm....
Whatever... 335rwhp, 3180lb car, decent air... should be 112mph through the traps easily.
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13.4 is a far cry from the published 12.7. I highly doubt they were holding it back to make their modifications look good.
There are a few plausible explanations. They would include but not be limited to:
1. The car is simply not being broken in yet. But then was the one which ran 12.7?
2. Driver skill. But one would expect that the Cartek guys would be pretty good drivers.
3. That particular C6 example was not as strong as the one which ran the 12.7.
4. Traction issues. The car is still on runcraps, even if they are "second generation" runcraps. You can't polish "crap".
5. Weather conditions and elevation. I don't know where the 12.7 was run, but that could play a role too.
6. And finally, the 1/4 mile times may have been exaggerated to begin with.
I doubt torque management played a role, because torque management was in use on the other car if it was indeed a "stock" production model which would be available to the public.
Torque management will likely have to be edited out with programming, which should help the 1/4 mile times.
If they have gotten it down to 13.1, I suspect that its just a matter of time before they break 13, bone stock. It might take a few more miles though.
There are a few plausible explanations. They would include but not be limited to:
1. The car is simply not being broken in yet. But then was the one which ran 12.7?
2. Driver skill. But one would expect that the Cartek guys would be pretty good drivers.
3. That particular C6 example was not as strong as the one which ran the 12.7.
4. Traction issues. The car is still on runcraps, even if they are "second generation" runcraps. You can't polish "crap".
5. Weather conditions and elevation. I don't know where the 12.7 was run, but that could play a role too.
6. And finally, the 1/4 mile times may have been exaggerated to begin with.
I doubt torque management played a role, because torque management was in use on the other car if it was indeed a "stock" production model which would be available to the public.
Torque management will likely have to be edited out with programming, which should help the 1/4 mile times.
If they have gotten it down to 13.1, I suspect that its just a matter of time before they break 13, bone stock. It might take a few more miles though.
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guys, this was the very first pass on a 6 spd car with 500 miles on the odometer. He wasn't trying to set a world record on the first pass although he should have known that the entire global reputation of the C6 depended on his performance at that moment! 
If GM hands you the keys and says "road test" you drive differently than if it's your own car barely broken in. It's a 6 speed. I know those of you that have driven sticks on the strip understand how granny shifting can slow you down. He later went 13.1 @ 109. He can probably do better. I'm sure many will easily have their bone stock C6s in the 12s. Torque management definitely kicked in when he tried to do a burnout - I saw it. I don't know if it affected his launch. Some of these comments are getting downright silly. Cartek modified ZO6's run in the 10s. They don't have to make their mods "look good".
If GM hands you the keys and says "road test" you drive differently than if it's your own car barely broken in. It's a 6 speed. I know those of you that have driven sticks on the strip understand how granny shifting can slow you down. He later went 13.1 @ 109. He can probably do better. I'm sure many will easily have their bone stock C6s in the 12s. Torque management definitely kicked in when he tried to do a burnout - I saw it. I don't know if it affected his launch. Some of these comments are getting downright silly. Cartek modified ZO6's run in the 10s. They don't have to make their mods "look good".
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Originally Posted by PRND21
guys, this was the very first pass on a 6 spd car with 500 miles on the odometer. He wasn't trying to set a world record on the first pass although he should have known that the entire global reputation of the C6 depended on his performance at that moment! If GM hands you the keys and says "road test" you drive differently than if it's your own car barely broken in. It's a 6 speed. I know those of you that have driven sticks on the strip understand how granny shifting can slow you down. He later went 13.1 @ 109. He can probably do better. I'm sure many will easily have their bone stock C6s in the 12s. Torque management definitely kicked in when he tried to do a burnout - I saw it. I don't know if it affected his launch. Some of these comments are getting downright silly. Cartek modified ZO6's run in the 10s. They don't have to make their mods "look good".
If GM hands you the keys and says "road test" you drive differently than if it's your own car barely broken in. It's a 6 speed. I know those of you that have driven sticks on the strip understand how granny shifting can slow you down. He later went 13.1 @ 109. He can probably do better. I'm sure many will easily have their bone stock C6s in the 12s. Torque management definitely kicked in when he tried to do a burnout - I saw it. I don't know if it affected his launch. Some of these comments are getting downright silly. Cartek modified ZO6's run in the 10s. They don't have to make their mods "look good". 
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Originally Posted by PRND21
He later went 13.1 @ 109. He can probably do better. I'm sure many will easily have their bone stock C6s in the 12s.
I hope so! What about those of us with Z06's hoping to get NEAR Z06 performance (as has been stated by nearly everyone involved in the project) from a Z51 six-speed Corvette.
This thread is scaring me...
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Interesting... I see some good times coming from the c6 once they are actually broken in and people get behind the wheel that know how to drive them. There have been bone stock z06 down to the exact same tire pressure running 11.9. The c6 has dynod the same hp and about 30 torque more then the z06. Yes, they wont handle as well, but they definately have the potential for mid to low 12s.
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
The c6 has dynod the same hp and about 30 torque more then the z06. Yes, they wont handle as well, but they definately have the potential for mid to low 12s.
Whatever... I do understand the guy not powershifting his brand new car. Heck, I don't powershift ANY of my cars...and of course, the ET's show.
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343/338 with 45 miles on the clock
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...hlight=ls1+ls2
This is a z06 and ls2 overlay
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...light=ls2+dyno
click for dyno
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198796
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...light=ls2+dyno
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...hlight=ls1+ls2
This is a z06 and ls2 overlay
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...light=ls2+dyno
click for dyno
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198796
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...light=ls2+dyno
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Excellent #s. Looks nearly identical to my Z06 when it was stock (353rwhp/350rwtq) w/ 500 miles on it. Obviously there are some minor differences in dynos. Like I said, the two dynos I've seen of the LS6 in a C6 Vette are showing 335rwhp. I've yet to see a Z06 dyno lower than 350rwhp.
Oh... and I don't put any stock in that LS2 vs. LS6 overlay. That's a really weak LS6 in that graph.
<---12.36 @ 116mph STOCK Z06, granny-shifting the crap out of it.
Oh... and I don't put any stock in that LS2 vs. LS6 overlay. That's a really weak LS6 in that graph.
<---12.36 @ 116mph STOCK Z06, granny-shifting the crap out of it.
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you guys can see the videos of the car on the drag strip in the drag racing section here on the forum. Also, check out the C6 section and you can read post from the C6 owners themselves.
The driver knows what he is doing. (he owns and drives two low 9 second cars)
The Torque Management system will soon be bypassed.
The car seemed to bod down on launch.
The was no "getting off the throttle" to make the future mods look better. Another C6 was running 13.0 at another track. (again, see the C6 sections on this forum)
There is no doubt the car will run much better. However, i bet this is what you can expect from the non-racer C6 drivers, lol. No need to fear the average C6 guy.
forgot to mention, he later ran 13.1 at 109.
The driver knows what he is doing. (he owns and drives two low 9 second cars)
The Torque Management system will soon be bypassed.
The car seemed to bod down on launch.
The was no "getting off the throttle" to make the future mods look better. Another C6 was running 13.0 at another track. (again, see the C6 sections on this forum)
There is no doubt the car will run much better. However, i bet this is what you can expect from the non-racer C6 drivers, lol. No need to fear the average C6 guy.
forgot to mention, he later ran 13.1 at 109.
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