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Old 04-20-2017, 08:30 AM
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Hi 3x2,
40 years!!!!
Seems like only last week!
Have you seen these sheets from the AIM?
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I'm afraid I have only one photo to share. (69s are out of my league.)

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Old 04-20-2017, 10:29 AM
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Yup, bought it in May 1977. I have an aim and the picture you posted does help. I have a bunch of pictures at home but not neccessarily hose specific. I'm looking for something like: x color striped hose from reservoir to pump is x" long, front outlet to T is x color stripe, x" long, etc. What I do need are the T's and Y hose fittings. Any idea of a source?
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:39 AM
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Hi 3x2,
Generally the hose kits from Dr.R have a drawing where the various hoses are to be used. Are you not finding that helpful?
I'm not sure just what plastic parts are included in the hose kits.
Sorry!
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:42 AM
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Just ordered the hose kits yesterday. The picture in his catalog do not show any T or Y fittings. I probably should have done this 40 years ago when the General still had parts inventory.
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Hi 3x2,
I found these.
Might they help in any way?
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thanks Alan, those help a lot.
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Hi 3x2,
At first I didn't recognize the source of those photos… but I now remember that they're from the Bizzoco 69 Book.
A very helpful/interesting book for folks working on 68-72 cars.
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I have that book. i'll have to go through it tonight.
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Hi,
Page 184.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:10 PM
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On my 69 I found that the headlight washer hoses are very weak unlike the vacuum lines and kink easily. It doesn't take much to block the flow from the solenoid. Mine was kinked just a few inches out of the solenoid and never worked until I played with the hoses.
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After looking at all the pictures, the photo above the L88 shows port E- as named in post #1- as going to the headlamps, All the other pictures has port E going to the windshield nozzles. Which is correct? Anyone with a 69 confirm routing and hose length?
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Hi 3x2,
Have you found the page?
The photo BELOW the L88 photo in Bizzoco's book pretty clearly shows the hose coming off E as suppling the liquid to the windshield.
The color photo I posted earlier isn't quite as definitive, but I believe it shows E suppling the windshield nozzles too.
I'm sorry I can't help with the lengths.
The long hose(s) that supply the headlight washers were part of the vacuum hose bundle for the headlights. This continued through 70. Remnants of the hoses are found on early-ish 71 cars in the vacuum hose bundle, but with some of the length at the firewall and headlamps cut off.
(Not that that info helps you, but it does give some insight into the 'Chevrolet' mind.
Also, what makes the 69 system even harder to figure out is the fact that it was one year only. 70 (and some early 71) cars had a five port pump which replaced the 69 valves and T's.
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Thanks Alan, I appreciate all your info and knowledge. If you're near Summit Point next weekend, stop and say hi to the Phoenix team. I won't be there, too many Corvettes to race prep to lose time in the shop.
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After looking at all the pictures, the photo above the L88 shows port E- as named in post #1- as going to the headlamps, All the other pictures has port E going to the windshield nozzles. Which is correct? Anyone with a 69 confirm routing and hose length?
The L88 pic is wrong. The headlight washer hose comes off the bottom inside port of two ports as depicted in the "headlight washer schematic - 1969." The port that points toward the left fender is for the windshield washers. The hose runs along the left inner fender in the same bundle as the headlight vacuum hoses so I can't tell you the exact length.

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Thanks CG
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Well, to add a little mystery, here is a picture of vin 714910. It is different altogether. Looks like the wrong holes were used to mount the pump to the housing. And the blue wire???
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Looks like somebody mounted it 90 degrees out. The screws come through from the back side of the plate so you should be able to change it back to the proper position. On the 69 the wiring connector plug at the solenoid has a yellow, a blue and a black wire with 2 black jumper wires from the between the plug/connector to the wiper motor.

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Old 04-22-2017, 10:40 AM
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Ok, now the plot thickens. I looked a some of the pictures I have and found two cars, 69L71 and a 69L89 both have port E going towards the left fender. A 69L88 has port E going to the windshield. This 88 is the only picture I have showing the windshield nozzle T wrapped with the clearish tape like the other check valves have. Is this correct?
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Hi 3x2,
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The filament tape wrap looks like what I'd expect to see….when it was done. The 'crossover' from one side to the other appears especially familiar.
Here'a a couple of examples (original 69) of some tape. Looks quite similar to what you've described.
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Old 04-22-2017, 06:47 PM
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Alan, but shouldn't they all have the tape? All the pictures are photos of cars I took at various NCRS shows. Some restored, some survivor cars.
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