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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Is any one running this intake? It is advertised as from idle to 7000 RPM.
Will it fit under a stock small block hood??
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DeanW
Is any one running this intake? It is advertised as from idle to 7000 RPM.
Will it fit under a stock small block hood??
Fits fin under a stock 73 hood, have not run any other intake in my vette but it has done well on a few diff eng configuations up to 6000 rpm's.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Jughead and I are both running it on our BB's...but neither of us are actually...um...driving.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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I have a 69 small block. I think it will fit. Just want to make sure.
Most of the manifolds I have seen (that fit) are 5500 RPM.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Here are some manifolds and their (advertised) heights I found when I was looking for a manifold to fit under my hood:
Dual Plane:
Edel Performer (2101):
Front: 3.50" Rear: 4.60"

Performer Air Gap (2601):
Front: 3.72", Rear: 4.92"

Edel Performer RPM (7101):
Front: 4.20", Rear: 5.25"

Edel Performer RPM Air Gap (7501):
Front: 4.20", Rear:5.25"

Holley Street Dominator (300-36):
front 4.44", rear 5.33"

Weiand Stealth (8016):
front: 4.18", rear: 4.50"

Weiand Action Plus (8000):
front: 3.75", rear: 4.63"

Weiand Action Plus (8004):
front: 3.50", rear: 4.00"


Single Plane:
Edel Torker II (5001):
Front: 3.53", Rear: 4.63"

Edel Victor Jr (2975):
4.58" (This is the height at the center of the carb pad and the carb pad is at a 3 degree angle down toward the front)

Weiand Team G (7525):
front: 3.50", rear: 4.50"

Weiand Team G (7530):
front: 3.63", rear: 4.56".

Weiand X-celerator (7546):
front: 4.38", rear: 5.31"

Weiand X-celerator (7547):
front: 3.09", rear: 4.06"


I ended up going with a Team G "street ram" (7525) and was fine with a Moroso drop base air cleaner (3") setup, but I had less than 1/2" from air cleaner stud to hood (and I "clearanced" the wing nut). You could probably fit the Stealth with a 2 1/4" air filter.

Remember in '73, the SB and BB had the same hoods with cowl induction, so there is more room under those with a SB.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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I've got a stealth under a 73' small block hood with a demon carb, fits fine.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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It looks like the back will fit, I will have to check the clearance on the front.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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Does a drop base air cleaner fit with the stock fuel line on a 69 350/350?
It has the filter on the front of the motor.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DeanW
It is advertised as from idle to 7000 RPM.
The key word is "advertised". Edelbrock could claim same for RPM or ...
Depends on C.I., setup ...

The 73-79 med. rise hood has more clearance.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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I ended up going with a Team G "street ram" (7525) and was fine with a Moroso drop base air cleaner (3") setup, but I had less than 1/2" from air cleaner stud to hood (and I "clearanced" the wing nut). You could probably fit the Stealth with a 2 1/4" air filter.
I am currently building a 383 for my 73 and am at the point now where I need to choose an intake.
I have a Edelbrock 1901 Quadrajet that has worked great for a couple of years now, and am hoping to use it along with the stock cowl induction air cleaner.
I have been looking at both the Weiand Action plus (8000), and the Weiand Team G (7525).

This is what I have so far:
Forged 4340 Nitrided crank
Forged H-beam rods
Forged flat top pistons (10.2-1 C/R)
AFR 195 heads (68cc comb chambers)
Comp Cams XR270HR cam
(Dur @ .050 = In 218, Ex 224, LSA= 110 / Lift= In .495, Ex .502 )
Turbo 400 tranny
Stock rear gears (3.08 if I remember correctly)

Is anyone running the Team G intake with a setup anywhere near what I am planning? If so, how "streetable" is it?

I don't want to create vacuum problems in the quest for performance and I would like to have crisp throttle response from idle, but I worry that the Action plus manifold will not flow well enough for my heads.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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I have one on my 80 with a holley 600. had to use a 2" tall holley breather for clearance
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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I just put my 383 in last weekend and I went with the Performer EPS. Hood clearence is going to be an issue running the stock hood (70').

Currently I have a 2 1/2" drop base with a 3" filter which leaves me about 1/2" to 5/8" from the hood.

I'm not far from you if you want to check it out.

Sounds like our engines are pretty similar.

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin_73
Turbo 400 tranny
Stock rear gears (3.08 if I remember correctly)
... I would like to have crisp throttle response from idle ...
Easy, you want a dual plane like Action+, Stealth, etc.
Depending on what you have now you might want to try it & then change. What intake do you have now?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganey
Easy, you want a dual plane like Action+, Stealth, etc.
Depending on what you have now you might want to try it & then change. What intake do you have now?
Right now I have a tired old bone stock L-48 with a Bubba installed cam with too much duration, and a bad wrist pin on the #1 cylinder (re-installed by Bubba).
My current engine makes almost no torque until it gets over about 2200 rpms, but then the wrist pin starts knocking around 2500 rpms so I have to baby it over that.
I am building a entire new 383 for it, so I have virtually nothing to compare it to now.

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Meant depending on what "intake" you have now you might want to try it "on the 383" & then change.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganey
Meant depending on what "intake" you have now you might want to try it "on the 383" & then change.
Ahh, I understand now.

Would a stock L-48 intake even fit on my AFR 195s ?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Kevin

Wound not bother w/ a stock iron intake, if you want Weiand, just go w/ the Stealth.
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Kevin,

Your setup is real close to mine, except, I have a XR274R solid roller cam with 236/242 @ .050 and 3.36 gears. I get 14" of vacuum at 700 RPM and I think it is real streetable, but "streetable" is very subjective. I also don't have power anything.

Be careful, though, comparing cam specs of hyd vs solid is not easy to do since the first .016 - .018 of my cam lift is just taking up the lash, so .050 lift is really .034 lift.

I'm a fan of the 7525 manifold. I once read "the great Vizard" say that it has the low RPM torque near a dual plane with high RPM properties of a single plane. I'm also different than most in that I'm perfectly willing to give up some low RPM torque. Once you have enough torque to light up the tires, more torque is a bad thing IMHO. I also never plan on running slicks.
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Originally Posted by BeaterShark
Kevin,

Your setup is real close to mine, except, I have a XR274R solid roller cam with 236/242 @ .050 and 3.36 gears. I get 14" of vacuum at 700 RPM and I think it is real streetable, but "streetable" is very subjective. I also don't have power anything.

Be careful, though, comparing cam specs of hyd vs solid is not easy to do since the first .016 - .018 of my cam lift is just taking up the lash, so .050 lift is really .034 lift.

I'm a fan of the 7525 manifold. I once read "the great Vizard" say that it has the low RPM torque near a dual plane with high RPM properties of a single plane. I'm also different than most in that I'm perfectly willing to give up some low RPM torque. Once you have enough torque to light up the tires, more torque is a bad thing IMHO. I also never plan on running slicks.
Thanks for the reply,

I have read similar things about the 7525 manifold. My main concern with it was vacuum, but if you are getting 14" with your combination it sounds like it might be fine for me with a 2100 stall convertor.

I hope this is the case since the 7525 looks to be the shortest manifold that Weiand has.
What'ya think?
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There was a post here a little while back saying that the front of the aircleaner was the toughest to fit because the hood slopes less as you near the windshield. That's why some of the intakes have big differences berween the front and rear. The Weiand's seem to be pretty 'flat' while Edelbrock makes their intakes with a significant cant forward (which is good).

Another thing to look at when judging intakes is the port area. Here's some numbers:

Weiand Action + 8004 = 2.061
Weiand Action + 8000 = 2.183
Weiand Stealth 8016 = 2.150

That's right! The 8000 has larger ports than even the Stealth yet maintains the dualplane configuration and low height. This isn't to say however that its a better manifold than the Stealth, which is an awesome manifold (I have one on my parts shelf at home waiting for a motor to use it on). The extra height of the Stealth gives a better ram effect but the 8000 won't choke off flow on a big small block like a 8004 or Performer might. Best yet, port match the 8000 to a FelPro 1204 gasket and mill down the plenum divider a bit and I bet it would be quite a screamer yet would easily fit your hood!

Just another thought for you to consider...
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