Is there a C3 with modern technology?
Racer
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From: Chambersburg PA
Originally Posted by Ak. Mal
Does that mean that you could lift a 69 off it's existing frame and set it on the new one and just bolt it down?
Race Director
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I don't have a modern tech engine but I do have a ZF6 speed and soon will have a seriously updated suspension. Also have modern brakes and possibly a front steering rack&pinion (working on that). My oiling system is pretty high tech though 
Burning Brakes
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From: Vernon British Columbia
St. Jude Donor '05
First C3 General Poster!
Rack and Pinion is NOT a C3 trait. Its awesome for driving and for running around in the corners, makes life hella easier, but again...just one of those things I wouldnt do to MY C3. I mean Im dumping some serious technology of the SBC into mine to create a 625hp engine that DOESNT use NOS or a Super, and Im also updating the suspension to the tune of almost 3 grand, brakes as well to the tune of 2200, a 200 4-r that can handle 800hp, and some majorly beefed up drivetrain components, but none of that changes the BASIC technology that is at the heart of a C3.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
Melting Slicks
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From: Gig Harbor Wa
Originally Posted by allstarcmdr
70 LS1-----THOSE are some Sharp Wheels !!!! Where'd ya get em??? 
Melting Slicks
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From: largo florida
Im an old timer...I like the IDEA that you can have a quasi-modern C3 without actually having to put in a 21st century drivetrain. When does a C3 STOP being a C3? Are we going stricly on body styling? Is there something more to it? I look at my cars philosophically, will it still be a C3 if I put in an engine, drivetrain, brake system from 2005? To me, no it wont be. You put in a normal small or big block, use the same but upgraded parts that bolt right on to a C3, then yes....but thats just my humble opinion.
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Safety Car
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From: WAY DEEP INSIDE AMERICO,YES YOU LIVE HERE TO!! TX
Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
Basically, my belief is a c3 is a c3 based on what it started out as. Screw the factory suspension, drivetrain, steering, brakes and all that other crap. Some of it was very special and unique for its day, but it was also a very long time ago and much better advancements have been made in the past 40 years or so. The notion that "I like the IDEA that you can have a quasi-modern C3 without actually having to put in a 21st century drivetrain" is mostly that, an IDEA. Anything that you can do the car now that doesnt use modern technology still isnt going to be stock, and could have been done back when the car was new, and probably was. So even if you modify the car using old school techniches, it still isnt a stock c3. Modified is modified, doesnt matter is you modify with parts that could have been obtained back in 70, or stuff that just came out. Besides, are you implying that a c3 is no longer a c3 when rack and pinion is added, Or how about a supercharger, Or even :gasp: an ls1 conversion?
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Originally Posted by 81 Vette
Rack and Pinion is NOT a C3 trait. Its awesome for driving and for running around in the corners, makes life hella easier, but again...just one of those things I wouldnt do to MY C3. I mean Im dumping some serious technology of the SBC into mine to create a 625hp engine that DOESNT use NOS or a Super, and Im also updating the suspension to the tune of almost 3 grand, brakes as well to the tune of 2200, a 200 4-r that can handle 800hp, and some majorly beefed up drivetrain components, but none of that changes the BASIC technology that is at the heart of a C3.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
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Burning Brakes
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From: shawnee ks
Anyone who doesnt want rack and pinion steering is missing out. No comparison to stock. If you get out of shape I like the response and quickness of the steering.As far as being a c3, I think they are all still c3s no matter what drivetrain or other mods have been upgraded. Who wants old technology when you can have modern with a classic bodystyle,best of both worlds.
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From: Kansas City, MO ...I'd like to go fishing and catch a fishstick. That'd be convenient. - Mitch Hedberg
Originally Posted by Ak. Mal
Does that mean that you could lift a 69 off it's existing frame and set it on the new one and just bolt it down?
Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
Oh Sure!!!! I can't shock mounts to just bolt on....What are the old of this???
Pro
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From: Camden AR
Is it still a C3?
???
Depends on who you ask...I've got my Pace and love it more than my Z06, cuz it has CHARACTER. It's a completely different driving experience, and I love it.
...but would I want, say, a '72 appearing modern sport car that I can drive everyday with little maintenance?...is that a rheutorical question, 4377 sign me up!!! and I'll call it whatever you want!
???
Depends on who you ask...I've got my Pace and love it more than my Z06, cuz it has CHARACTER. It's a completely different driving experience, and I love it.
...but would I want, say, a '72 appearing modern sport car that I can drive everyday with little maintenance?...is that a rheutorical question, 4377 sign me up!!! and I'll call it whatever you want!
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From: Kansas City, MO ...I'd like to go fishing and catch a fishstick. That'd be convenient. - Mitch Hedberg
Originally Posted by Ak. Mal
You mean like this?
Originally Posted by Summerfun
Ak. Mal,
How did you do that quote in quote thing??
How did you do that quote in quote thing??
{QUOTE=Ak. Mal} You mean like this?
{QUOTE=Summerfun}Ak. Mal,
How did you do that quote in quote thing??
{/QUOTE}{/QUOTE}
Drifting
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From: Allen TX
Originally Posted by 81 Vette
Rack and Pinion is NOT a C3 trait. Its awesome for driving and for running around in the corners, makes life hella easier, but again...just one of those things I wouldnt do to MY C3. I mean Im dumping some serious technology of the SBC into mine to create a 625hp engine that DOESNT use NOS or a Super, and Im also updating the suspension to the tune of almost 3 grand, brakes as well to the tune of 2200, a 200 4-r that can handle 800hp, and some majorly beefed up drivetrain components, but none of that changes the BASIC technology that is at the heart of a C3.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
Anyways Im going to stop stepping on people's toes now.
Race Director
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
any way not to fuel the real C3/ fake C3 issue.... but i just saw at a local shop the new front end kit with a Mono spring and new A-arms installed on a C3 and.... it was awsome....I wish i had done that when i rebuilt my front end...... any way how can i get a Not Correctly Restored Stringay t-shirt to wear poudly or since i have a 77 am i left out of the Stingray club?? ...you couldn't be so lucky, emblems or not I voted my self in without asking
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I have a friend who's got an ERA cobra replica...complete with a 427FE side-oiler. He built it himself. It's got a modern chassis, suspension, and brake system. It's basically a brand new car that happens to look like a '65 Cobra. A couple years after he built it, he got a chance to drive the real deal. He likes the ERA replica better. He said it has much better road manners and cooler footboxes. Sound familiar?