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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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My wife asked me what I wanted for Christmas so I told her braided fuel lines. Ok, I am here to ask everyone what size do line do I need and what fittings do I need. I want to go from my fuel pump to the carb. I have a Holley fuel pump and Holley Street Avenger carb on a Performer intake. I am currently wanting to install an RPM Airgap intake, if that will make any difference.
I seem to remember that some fittings were easier to work with than others. If you have braided lines on your vette please chime in and tell me about how your installation went and what brands you used. Thanks for any and all help on this one.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Call Jeg's they can help, also they have line in various lengths so you don't have to buy a roll. Billit fittings are also availavbe in pairs. I purchased fuel line, vacume line, heater hose, rad hose, and all the fittings for around $250 and it came out realy nice. They also sell hose loom available in chrome or various colors, very reasonably priced. Their number is 800-345-4545 and they have a website just do a search on Jeg's performace parts. The lines are listed in inch size and line size, I called and told them what I had and they helped me select, went very smoolthly. Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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I have this "fuel log" type set up now Eddie. This is 8AN stuff running off a 6AN from the pump. It has an integral filter in the fitting to the left of the pressure gauge.




Very pricey. I started out 3 years ago with a fuel pump to carb kit from Summitt. About $50.
Here's a picture of that setup. That's the chrome Summit carb connection. Pretty versitile. I think that cost about $40. It's all 6 AN which is 3/8".




I have a ton of fittings too that I bought to try and piece the line together with what I wanted to do. Add a filter, add a pressure gauge, next is maybe a fuel pressure regulator. It never ends.

The Summit kit is a good start too.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Here's another pic of the older setup. That's on a Holley 3310 but I think the chrome line is adjustable. If you want it you can have it. Can't give you the SS braided lines though.

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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If you don't want to get too crazy with it, Summit has a kit available with the required fittings and hose to go from the pump to the carb. (I think it was ~$45.) I had it on my old Edlebrock carb and it came out pretty good. It's their house brand of hose and fittings though so if you want a name brand you'll have to buy the fittings and hose individually.

I used Russell for my EFI fuel system although some people say that Russell is junk and to only use Aeroquip or Earl's. I haven't had any problems. The Russell fittings were easier to assemble on the hose than the Summit ones. I haven't used the others so I can't comment on their ease of assembly.

Hope that helps.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. I may give Jegs or Summit a call Monday with an order. Len I like the fuel log you have now. Was that hard to build or was it bought like that?
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Eddie that "log" Jughead has is real nice. The chrome one is a very "low end" (cheap) one . The filter in the log, if it is a stone filter leave it out and use a different in-line filter, if it is a paper or screen filter buy a couple of extras to you can change it about every 4-6 months. Stone filters are very restrictive ( something you find in a stock carb).

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Aeroquip FCP0134 dual-feed assembly

Russell in line fiter 650100
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System 1 201408 (this is 1 of my 2 fuel filters)
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. I may give Jegs or Summit a call Monday with an order. Len I like the fuel log you have now. Was that hard to build or was it bought like that?
It's a Russell setup. It comes as a complete unit and a pressure gauge. It wasn't in any catalog but I found it in some paper work when I ordered a different line. Ended up ordering this one and sending the first back. Expensive and I had to wait about a month. This one is specific to 4150 Holley's. If you want I'll get the part number. I think I got it from Jeg's.

It's been over a year sincve I had that line screwed together, from what I remember the filter is a fine metal screen. Eventually I'd like to add a separate filter like Norm said and a pressure regulator.

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Originally Posted by Jughead
It's a Russell setup. It comes as a complete unit and a pressure gauge. It wasn't in any catalog but I found it in some paper work when I ordered a different line. Ended up ordering this one and sending the first back. Expensive and I had to wait about a month. This one is specific to 4150 Holley's. If you want I'll get the part number. I think I got it from Jeg's.

It's been over a year sincve I had that line screwed together, from what I remember the filter is a fine metal screen. Eventually I'd like to add a separate filter like Norm said and a pressure regulator.
Eddie go with that log that Jughead has. That fine screen filter in there is good and doesn't have to be changed (hardly ever) just keep it clean.

Hey Len, get him the part number already !!!
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Well Eddie didn't ask Norm, so I didn't look till this morning.

Took me a while too.

I don't have the actual Jegs's part number since I have to destroy all "parts ordering" material as soon as I know I'm going to keep it.

I still have the original line packaging though.

One the back of the package is:

4127/641270
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It has the bar code number as: 0 87133 41270 2

I called Jeg's to order and it took almost a month to ship.
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Eddie, that fuel line kit is for a 4150 and is 8AN, if you're running a 3/8 (6AN) line from the pump to the line, you'll need a 8AN to 6AN reducer. Eventually I'm going to switch the 6AN pump line to 8AN....maybe when I add the regulator and additional filter.

I'll keep looking for the Russell sheet that came with the line kit. I think it had more line kits on there. I bought this one because of the dual filters.
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Jughead,
I wish to go in the opposite direction and replace that braided line (fuel pump to Russell filter) with a normal steel line bent to suit/fit. Are you saying that I simply need an 8AN to 6AN reducer fitting to do that? I measured the stock steel line and it is 1/4" OD.

*Edit*-I believe it is a 6AN already (checked the Russell web site). So I may need a 6 to 4 adaptor.


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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Jughead,
I wish to go in the opposite direction and replace that braided line (fuel pump to Russell filter) with a normal steel line bent to suit/fit. Are you saying that I simply need an 8AN to 6AN reducer fitting to do that? I measured the stock steel line and it is 1/4" OD.

*Edit*-I believe it is a 6AN already (checked the Russell web site). So I may need a 6 to 4 adaptor.


Paul, I think you're running an Edelbrock carb. I don't know what size the fuel inlet is. I'd bet your fuel pump outlet is 1/4NPT.

I only used the reducer because the Russel setup was only available as a 8AN(1/2").

Yeah, I'd bet you just need the 6 to 4AN reducer.
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This is what I have for the Edelbrock. It is a 6AN. So I need a 6-4 adaptor for the SB 1/4" line.

FUEL LINE KITS FOR STREET


FUEL LINE/FILTER KIT

The Fuel Line & Filter Kit, designed for Edelbrock Performer Series carbs, includes a chromed hard steel line and Russell fuel filter. The Chromed Steel Fuel Line is available with a 3/8" barbed end and no fuel filter for universal applications.
PART # DESCRIPTION AN SIZE

651100 Fuel line and filter kit -6 AN

651098 Fuel line and filter kit (Polished) -6 AN

651099 Fuel line without filter, includes barb 3/8" Barb
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Paul, not sure they make a 6 to a 4. Maybe they do. Here's another source for fittings and lines. They list just about everything.

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Looks good as always Dave.
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One more question on the Street Avenger body style. Is the carb based on the 4150 or 4500 size? Thanks for you guys help on this. I like the look of the Russell dual feed lines and will probably go this way, I am just checking pricing right now, and there is a lot of difference on them at Jegs.

Jegs-Russell Dual Inlet Prices


One more thing, any preference as to which brand fitting is easier to use, Russell, Aeroquip or Earls.

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Eddie, whenever you replace all/any part of the fuel line (from the tank to the carb) replace with #8 braided hose when using hose or if you use tubing (in any sections of the line) you definitly should up-size the tubing size to the equivelent of #8.

The dual-feed line you show above is real nice. Add that Systems 1 in-line to and that would be extra sweet. A good big filter back by the gas should/must be used if you are running an electric pump.
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