Possible Fraud Caution
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The following is a completed transation of the type you are referring to:
Hello Hevychvy,
Barry Collin is interested in your ad #3340
Title: http://www.ar-auto.com/show_ad_info.php?AID=3340
Contact Info:
Phone number: 011 234 1 776 6415
Best time to call: working hours
E-mail address: genesis_autos@hotmail.com
Message from Sender:
Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Barry Collin an automobile procurement agent that
specialise in the purchase and shipping of vehicles, bikes,boats, yachts,
heavy machines and car parts to our numerous customers worldwide. We have a
customer interested in purchasing your vehicle(1993 Chevrolet Corvette )
mentioned above. Please acknowledge the offer and get back with your last
asking price. On your acknowledgement and confirmation to proceed, we will
forward your particulars to our client and send you payment modalities
according to his instructions. It’s important to note that our client will
pay all our fees, and you do not have any obligation of payment to us and
attach more photos as soon as possible. Thanks and have a nice day, Barry.
------------------------------------------------
Note:
To reply to the ad, you may simply hit reply button.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collins" <genesis_autos@hotmail.com>
To: Me
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:12 AM
Subject: 1993 Corvette convertible /CLIENT'S PAYMENT DETAILS
Hello There,
I appreciate your mail and confirmation to proceed on the transaction. I am
impressed by the prompt attention accorded the transaction considering the
need for us to round up on time.
My client has accepted to pay the stipulated price immediately with a
cashier’s check, just that the check, is going to be in an amount larger
than the cost of the vehicle. Reason being that it is a refund payment to my
client and the Company issuing the check has the policy not to issue more
than one check to a refund payment, which means that the check is going to
carry the whole amount em-block for the sales and shipping of the vehicle
from your base. That's home pickup.
The check that will be sent to is $25,200.00 and you would have to deduct
the cost of your vehicle $18,500.00 from it immediately you cash it and send
the balance $6,700.00 to my client via wire transfer (Western Union /
MoneyGram) to offset the shipping charges. So he is entrusting you to handle
his funds with honesty, care and utmost confidentiality.
Then you are required to send your full Name, which should be on check,and
the address where the check is going to be sent to you and your contact
telephone numbers for fast communication. On receipt of this information,
the check will be sent to you. After you send the balance, the shipper will
be paid and they will come and pick up the vehicle immediately.
Ask question where you are not cleared. I would be there to explain further.
Looking forward to rounding up this transaction as soon as possible.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
Yours sincerely,
Barry Collin.
My reply:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill"
To: "Barry Collins" <genesis_autos@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: 1993 Corvette convertible /CLIENT'S PAYMENT DETAILS
Hello There 'Barry'
The thing that would make my day the happiest would be for you to be here,
so I could kick your butt up between your shoulder blades for attempting this
scam on me.
I mean that Sincerely,
Bill
Hello Hevychvy,
Barry Collin is interested in your ad #3340
Title: http://www.ar-auto.com/show_ad_info.php?AID=3340
Contact Info:
Phone number: 011 234 1 776 6415
Best time to call: working hours
E-mail address: genesis_autos@hotmail.com
Message from Sender:
Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Barry Collin an automobile procurement agent that
specialise in the purchase and shipping of vehicles, bikes,boats, yachts,
heavy machines and car parts to our numerous customers worldwide. We have a
customer interested in purchasing your vehicle(1993 Chevrolet Corvette )
mentioned above. Please acknowledge the offer and get back with your last
asking price. On your acknowledgement and confirmation to proceed, we will
forward your particulars to our client and send you payment modalities
according to his instructions. It’s important to note that our client will
pay all our fees, and you do not have any obligation of payment to us and
attach more photos as soon as possible. Thanks and have a nice day, Barry.
------------------------------------------------
Note:
To reply to the ad, you may simply hit reply button.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collins" <genesis_autos@hotmail.com>
To: Me
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:12 AM
Subject: 1993 Corvette convertible /CLIENT'S PAYMENT DETAILS
Hello There,
I appreciate your mail and confirmation to proceed on the transaction. I am
impressed by the prompt attention accorded the transaction considering the
need for us to round up on time.
My client has accepted to pay the stipulated price immediately with a
cashier’s check, just that the check, is going to be in an amount larger
than the cost of the vehicle. Reason being that it is a refund payment to my
client and the Company issuing the check has the policy not to issue more
than one check to a refund payment, which means that the check is going to
carry the whole amount em-block for the sales and shipping of the vehicle
from your base. That's home pickup.
The check that will be sent to is $25,200.00 and you would have to deduct
the cost of your vehicle $18,500.00 from it immediately you cash it and send
the balance $6,700.00 to my client via wire transfer (Western Union /
MoneyGram) to offset the shipping charges. So he is entrusting you to handle
his funds with honesty, care and utmost confidentiality.
Then you are required to send your full Name, which should be on check,and
the address where the check is going to be sent to you and your contact
telephone numbers for fast communication. On receipt of this information,
the check will be sent to you. After you send the balance, the shipper will
be paid and they will come and pick up the vehicle immediately.
Ask question where you are not cleared. I would be there to explain further.
Looking forward to rounding up this transaction as soon as possible.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
Yours sincerely,
Barry Collin.
My reply:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill"
To: "Barry Collins" <genesis_autos@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: 1993 Corvette convertible /CLIENT'S PAYMENT DETAILS
Hello There 'Barry'
The thing that would make my day the happiest would be for you to be here,
so I could kick your butt up between your shoulder blades for attempting this
scam on me.
I mean that Sincerely,
Bill
#142
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Scammers keep trying. I posted my 98 Mustang for sale for money towards my C3 I'm still looking for. This was the email I got;
To: Michael Batchellor
Picture of anderson Destiny
Thanks for your quick response, I hope it is in good condition like it
stated because I have taken a close look at the advert and am
completely satisfied, . I'll want you to remove the advert from web
and consider this item is sold to me, I'll be paying via Certified
check
and the check will deliver to you in next two days .So i want to be
the best offer by adding $100 to your money and i hope you will keep
this item for me
Name to write on the payment:
Contact Physical Address :
City and State with Zip Code:
Cell and home phone number:
Price of the item.
I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping
i will have my mover to come over as soon as you have the check,and i
will get back to you once my secretary made the payment out to you.
Thanks.
THIS WAS MY REPLY:
Michael Batchellor (guitarzan5150@hotmail.com)
11:57 PM
To: anderson Destiny
Picture of Michael Batchellor
Sorry. Not releasing the vehicle or title until I have the cash in my hand. Have your secretary cash the check and bring the money, only then will I consider the car sold to you. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck
To: Michael Batchellor
Picture of anderson Destiny
Thanks for your quick response, I hope it is in good condition like it
stated because I have taken a close look at the advert and am
completely satisfied, . I'll want you to remove the advert from web
and consider this item is sold to me, I'll be paying via Certified
check
and the check will deliver to you in next two days .So i want to be
the best offer by adding $100 to your money and i hope you will keep
this item for me
Name to write on the payment:
Contact Physical Address :
City and State with Zip Code:
Cell and home phone number:
Price of the item.
I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping
i will have my mover to come over as soon as you have the check,and i
will get back to you once my secretary made the payment out to you.
Thanks.
THIS WAS MY REPLY:
Michael Batchellor (guitarzan5150@hotmail.com)
11:57 PM
To: anderson Destiny
Picture of Michael Batchellor
Sorry. Not releasing the vehicle or title until I have the cash in my hand. Have your secretary cash the check and bring the money, only then will I consider the car sold to you. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck
#144
Be very careful when dealing with anyone stating that they are a serious buyer, blah blah blah wanting to buy immediately at cetera do not accept Paypal or money order. Also posting your car on Craigslist do not respond to email addresses very very scary
#146
FYI -- Some folks in the C4s For Sale section are suspicious about recent contacts they have had from out-of-country buyers for their Corvettes:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=637860
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=637594
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=637860
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=637594
#147
You've got to be desperate to sell to anyone from Russia England Cannada South Africa Hunguray ,Ect. Once outside the cotinential US You are at their mercy. Saudi Araba,the list goes on & on .As a corvette owner you should know better.The internet is full of SCAMS.Do your homework .Smarten up people.
#148
I am from Germany and currently want to buy a Vette in the US.
Ive had the car inspected and it looks nice. We agreed on a price but now we are facing the problem how to make the payment.
Of course I could wire the money and hope my shipper gets the car and title when he goes there to pick up the car. But thats a high risk on my side. I might receive nothing and the money is gone.
I proposed to make the full payment after the title has been sent to the shipping company. Then seller has the car and money until its picked up. However, seller does not feel comfortable with that. I now proposed to make an instalment of 500 and then pay the rest after the title has been sent. Will see how seller responds.
You see it is pretty hard because some are too frightened even with serious buyers. What would I want with a title piece of paper? I do want the car! But at least the title would give me some comfort before paying the big money...
I hope we will find a solution.
Just wanted to give you an impression of the other side :-) :-)
Ive had the car inspected and it looks nice. We agreed on a price but now we are facing the problem how to make the payment.
Of course I could wire the money and hope my shipper gets the car and title when he goes there to pick up the car. But thats a high risk on my side. I might receive nothing and the money is gone.
I proposed to make the full payment after the title has been sent to the shipping company. Then seller has the car and money until its picked up. However, seller does not feel comfortable with that. I now proposed to make an instalment of 500 and then pay the rest after the title has been sent. Will see how seller responds.
You see it is pretty hard because some are too frightened even with serious buyers. What would I want with a title piece of paper? I do want the car! But at least the title would give me some comfort before paying the big money...
I hope we will find a solution.
Just wanted to give you an impression of the other side :-) :-)
#149
I've bought cars and parts from you guy's in the States before and deals have gone well
To you guy's selling.....if you have one doubt in your mind about the buyer....don't go through with it unless they can get the cash to you
up front so you can touch it(spend it).
Money talks.. walks
If someone wants your ride that hard they'll find a way to get the cabbage to 'ya
To you guy's selling.....if you have one doubt in your mind about the buyer....don't go through with it unless they can get the cash to you
up front so you can touch it(spend it).
Money talks.. walks
If someone wants your ride that hard they'll find a way to get the cabbage to 'ya
#151
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2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2021 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C3 of Year Finalist (stock)
2017 C3 of Year Finalist
St. Jude Donor '13
You've got to be desperate to sell to anyone from Russia England Cannada South Africa Hunguray ,Ect. Once outside the cotinential US You are at their mercy. Saudi Araba,the list goes on & on .As a corvette owner you should know better.The internet is full of SCAMS.Do your homework .Smarten up people.
I'll be informed throughout and given all the dates fro collection, transfer, shipping etc..
Hopefully it all works out and both parties are 100% happy. It's delayed the seller getting his sale funds by a couple of weeks but he said he's fine with the arrangements. In an ideal world I would have traveled to see the car in person but as in this case, it's not always possible.
I took the fact he's a long time forum member as a good sign and a reference for a previous over seas buyer he sold too confirmed to me that the car he bought from the same seller was as good, if not better than originally described. (thanks Gunther!) that and the car is NCRS 98.4 gave me the confidence to proceed without seeing the car in person.
Hopefully I'll be able to report back with all positives
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#152
Racer
Thanks to all for the info.. Going thru trying to sell my '74 Coupe right now and so far have just been getting hit with Companies that claim they have people who want a car just like I have and if I list my car with them they can get me a quick sale. Most of these contacts reference a 402 area code and a quick Internet check of their phone numbers show they just take your money. Eye's wide open!
#153
Burning Brakes
I had a 75 Cadillac eldorado listed on eBay and some guy from Spain said he wanted it. So I waited for his funds to be sent and clear my bank. After they did he arranged a car carrier to come and pick it up from my western Chicago neighborhood. Everything went smooth, the car was kinda rough and didn't know why he would bother shipping it to Spain.
2 years go by and then he sent me pictures of the car totally restored being used for his daughters wedding....in Spain. I was totally floored.
2 years go by and then he sent me pictures of the car totally restored being used for his daughters wedding....in Spain. I was totally floored.
#154
Intermediate
Thanks for the heads up. It's sad any of us even need to deal with this kind of stuff. The lowest of the low. Maybe it's me, but the two links in the first post seem to be non functional. I get "page not found" errors on both.
#155
I had a 75 Cadillac eldorado listed on eBay and some guy from Spain said he wanted it. So I waited for his funds to be sent and clear my bank. After they did he arranged a car carrier to come and pick it up from my western Chicago neighborhood. Everything went smooth, the car was kinda rough and didn't know why he would bother shipping it to Spain.
2 years go by and then he sent me pictures of the car totally restored being used for his daughters wedding....in Spain. I was totally floored.
2 years go by and then he sent me pictures of the car totally restored being used for his daughters wedding....in Spain. I was totally floored.
I am looking for a C3 in 5 to 8 grand range....
Some ads to good to be true - so I am afraid of the scam in the other direction...
Are ads like this genuine:
http://corvettetraderclassifieds.com...orvette-t-top/
http://corvettetraderclassifieds.com...eam-ray-t-top/
http://www.vettehound.com/geo/classi...php?a=2&b=9991
http://www.vettehound.com/geo/classi...php?a=2&b=9739
http://www.vettehound.com/geo/classi...php?a=2&b=9700
http://www.vettehound.com/geo/classi...php?a=2&b=8897
So the marked two seem to be way off the regular price level for th emodel.
Where is the trick?
Basically - I am looking for a solid runner, non modified, original wheels, rust free, especially the birdcage!, not cracked dash, the rest is not so critical to fix for me.
Respray and re-upholstery are not so big deal here...
Any feedback on this?
Kind regards and thanks in advance!
Last edited by C3_nuts; 02-10-2017 at 04:03 PM. Reason: typo
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AllC34Me (02-16-2017)
#156
Here is my 1975 Corvette that I will sell for $6750. It is an automatic with original engine. Cleanest frame and birdcage I have seen. Interior is mostly fine except for driver side door panel. A few issues with the electrical...power windows ...gages... The bumpers are starting to crack..
Over all a nice car
Over all a nice car
#157
Racer
I haven't bought a Corvette in quite a while so I can't address some of you're questions but I have had a Corvette painted recently and all my estimates were in the $6,000 to $7,000 range and I ended up paying in that range. I think the '81 you referenced said it was in need of paint so unless you can get a much better deal in your area ... figure those amounts in. I've not heard much about selling scams but can attest that probably 75% of the calls I get on my '74 that I have for sale are scams. My car is out of you're price range but it's expensive to do an extensive reconditioning on one of these babies. The 2 ads that you flagged do sound too good to be true to me, especially if you can't check them out personally. Good luck.
#158
I haven't bought a Corvette in quite a while so I can't address some of you're questions but I have had a Corvette painted recently and all my estimates were in the $6,000 to $7,000 range and I ended up paying in that range. I think the '81 you referenced said it was in need of paint so unless you can get a much better deal in your area ... figure those amounts in. I've not heard much about selling scams but can attest that probably 75% of the calls I get on my '74 that I have for sale are scams. My car is out of you're price range but it's expensive to do an extensive reconditioning on one of these babies. The 2 ads that you flagged do sound too good to be true to me, especially if you can't check them out personally. Good luck.
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I would pay half of that you named here for a full respray of body and frame (without work on the bircage).
Labor is far less expensive here, parts are only available with expensive overseas shipping.
That is why I am looking for a solid runner, no rust, complete car with no missing parts.
Thanks again for your reply.
Last edited by C3_nuts; 02-11-2017 at 11:59 AM.
#159
hoping greed closes your eyes
I've bought cars and parts from you guy's in the States before and deals have gone well
To you guy's selling.....if you have one doubt in your mind about the buyer....don't go through with it unless they can get the cash to you
up front so you can touch it(spend it).
Money talks.. walks
If someone wants your ride that hard they'll find a way to get the cabbage to 'ya
To you guy's selling.....if you have one doubt in your mind about the buyer....don't go through with it unless they can get the cash to you
up front so you can touch it(spend it).
Money talks.. walks
If someone wants your ride that hard they'll find a way to get the cabbage to 'ya
new guy hi everybody
tell them to get off but cash that one and cut new one
watched the sting when we were kids LOL
#160
Hi guys,
this looks nice - but suspecious to me:
https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/28581958
Location of the company in residential area, all the cars listed are pictured in different location :-/
Any clues? Anybody knows this seller?
this looks nice - but suspecious to me:
https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/28581958
Location of the company in residential area, all the cars listed are pictured in different location :-/
Any clues? Anybody knows this seller?