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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Ok I just sold a 94 6 speed so not very well versed in auto's. I have a good friend who is looking at a 94 auto with 89,000 miles. It is extremely clean car and looks to be VERY well maintained. I would love to get everyone's opinion on life expectancy of the auto and any problems he could expect with the auto with this kinda mileage.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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The later the year the better the durability. 94 is a good, later year. It is electronic which makes for better durability. It does not have a governor so it uses map,tps and speed sensor inputs to activate solenoids for quick valve actuations. 100 to 150k in a properly maintained, street driven c-4 is not unusual.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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If it's working well already, just do a flush switching to synthetic fluid and then change the filter. Should be good to go for many more miles.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Mine has 125K, its still OK ['88], but you never know.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne88
Mine has 125K, its still OK ['88], but you never know.
Knock on wood!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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There is a great article on transmissions in the current issue of Corvette Fever by Chris Petris. This guy knows his stuff.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete K
100 to 150k in a properly maintained, street driven c-4 is not unusual.
Are you saying that it's common for 4l60Es to fail in a stock HP car at 100-150k?

I hope that's not the case. That would be a pretty lousy lifetime.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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I bought my 94 Auto in April of 2001 with 24K miles on it. Real clean, well maintained car. Put 4000 miles on it the first Summer. Then in Nov of 2001 while taking it out for the last ride of the year before garaging her for the Winter, the tranny went. Brought tears to my eyes seeing her on the trailer being taken to the shop. The owner of the trans shop said a valve stuck? Cost me $1000. No problems since then, only had to put a water pump in her 2 years ago.
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That is the opposite of what I am implying. These transmissions often have a reputation for failing every few years. I am a believer in these units. I feel that any part that goes 100-150k is a good part. I would never expect a motor,trans or rear to last 200k in a high performance car. If it does go that far I feel the part owes me nothing. For the record my origional trans(87) went 235k before I broke it. This is the exception rather than the rule. Some guys have had failures with less than 60k. I also feel that these are the exception.
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Also, transmissions contain a band and many clutch plates. These have a wear surface similar to a brake pad or clutch lining. A typical plate is .060 thick. .040 is the center, and each side contains.010 of wear surface. I cannot believe this lining holds up for more than ten miles much less 100k. Heat is the big factor. The rubber lip seals get hard from heat. 1 little crack in a lip seal causes a failure in the hydralic circuit. Then the trans fails.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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My 95 has 103,000 on it ,oooh I do need to flush and fill trans , runs great. No problems.with it.
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There's one school of thought that says if your transmission has gone for many miles without changing the fluid, leaving it alone is safest. I've had my 95 since only last summer, so I have no way of knowing for sure whether it's been done or not. I'm torn!

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I had my '96 CE for a year, changed the fluid, and have had no problems. The old fluid was dirty, so the change has to have helped a little.
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Originally Posted by Pete K
I would never expect a motor,trans or rear to last 200k in a high performance car. If it does go that far I feel the part owes me nothing.
I consider a modern engine or tranny that doesn't make it to 200k with proper maintenance to be a POS. But then I'm not used to American cars.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by steve9899
I consider a modern engine or tranny that doesn't make it to 200k with proper maintenance to be a POS. But then I'm not used to American cars.
I did make my post to argue the quality of american vs import. I made it to reassure the guy who started the thread that the quality"In My Opinion" was quite good for his make and model. I meant no disrespect to what ever vehicle you have that gives you pleasure. If I have a vehicle of any year, make or model go 150K "I" feel it owes me nothing. Your opinion obviously disagrees with mine. I don't feel the need to beat this horse. Hopefully others will chime in with their opinion. I have expressed mine sufficiently.
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My Tranny has 155k on it just flushed and filtered had a lot of gunk on the magnet but it works just fine. I added Lucas tranny treatment to it and it runs a lot better than before used to shift pretty hard now it feels just right.
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thanks everyone for the replys. From what I am hearing the automatic should be good for quite some time with a good flush and fluid change. I really appreciate all the comments and thoughts.
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What does the "tranny treatment" do?
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Originally Posted by VFR750
There's one school of thought that says if your transmission has gone for many miles without changing the fluid, leaving it alone is safest. I've had my 95 since only last summer, so I have no way of knowing for sure whether it's been done or not. I'm torn!

I've heard this theory bantered around for all of the 30+ years I've been working on vehicles professionally. I've never bought into it nor do I have any personal experience that would verify it. If you change your fluid and your transmission conks out a week later, it was going to puke anyway, in my opinion. My fluid was disgusting when I bought my car at 81K mkiles but the transmission worked well so I took the chance. I did a flush and then a filter change going to B&M's synthetic Trick Shift. I installed a B&M Shift Plus which is an electronic shift kit. I'm now making significantly more HP and torque than stock and it still works well at 103K miles. If it croaks tomorrow, I'll say,"Oh well." and build it back to take more power than I'm making. I flog it and enjoy it and if something breaks, I'll make it better.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by steve9899
I consider a modern engine or tranny that doesn't make it to 200k with proper maintenance to be a POS. But then I'm not used to American cars.
Do a search on Honda auto trans failures, also Toyota Camry trans failures, VW auto trans faliures, ya might be surprized.

350's go 200k easy, I've never owned a C-4 Corvette auto without at least 100k when I bought it. Never had a Corvette trans fail.

You drive an American car!
Anyone can kill the auto trans in every car out there. Its keeping them alive that takes practice.

Not used to American cars what country are you from? Don't look now theres one right behind you.
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