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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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My 87 will not idle..When I crak it and the engine starts up, it revs up like normal, and then dies, if idont apply throttle.

When I drive around, and does a corner, without the foot on the pedal it dies too...

What do I need to check here?!?!
I have been told that a "computer" handels the idle, so notning can be done.....

The car runs great, and have never had a problem like this before....
Anybody with an idea???
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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just went out in the garage again. First time I fired it up it died right away....The next few times it was just fine....

Any ideas...
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Two things-the idle is controlled by the IAC-and it can be cleaned, typically they get all carboned up and affect idle. Next, I'd be doing a leak down check on the injectors, to make sure they weren't leaking.Hope you have a Helms manual.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rick lambert
Two things-the idle is controlled by the IAC-and it can be cleaned, typically they get all carboned up and affect idle. Next, I'd be doing a leak down check on the injectors, to make sure they weren't leaking.Hope you have a Helms manual.
IAC replace it.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by redwing76
IAC replace it.
:o Whats an "IAC" where do I find it on the car.....Will a cleaning do any good, until I get a new one?


again :o :o :o ..still learning
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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IAC is on the throttle body..passenger side..
Get the manual to assist you..
Also check your fuel filter, fuel pump..
Sounds like you *may* have a fuel issue..
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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hmm Idont have a manual. Would it be dangerous to try and locate and clean the IAC without the manual? IS there alot that has to be taken apart?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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The IAC {Idle Air Control Valve} is # 70.
The problem may or may not be the IAC, but its a good guess.

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Thanks, that drawing sure did help.
I will try to clean the IAC, I have been told that may help abit.
Is the IAC screwed in, or is it like a plug I can wiggel out?
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from the diagram it looks to be threaded, my guess is screwed in.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars87
Thanks, that drawing sure did help.
I will try to clean the IAC, I have been told that may help abit.
Is the IAC screwed in, or is it like a plug I can wiggel out?
Its screwed in and if you go that far.....replace it.
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Its screwed in and if you go that far.....replace it.
Jep I plan on doing that! But in Denmark you can wait for weeks on parts shipped from US or elsewhere...

I hope that cleaning it will help, until i recive a new on.

Is it a big job? looks like its just " un-screw and replace"???

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Originally Posted by Lars87
I hope that cleaning it will help, until i recive a new on.

Is it a big job? looks like its just " un-screw and replace"???
I think its almost impossible to un-screw without taking the Throttle Body off.
To take the TB off, there 4 long bolts [10 MM] holding it on.
Disconnect the water hoses connected to # 61, they might be tuff to get off, you will spill some anti-freeze.
Disconnect the plug from the TPS [throttle position sensor] #20, but do not unscrew the TPS off the TB.
You may need a new gasket # 1.
You can probably leave the throttle cable attached while you change the IAC.

BTW, I know this because I did it myself.

Heres a pic of my old & new IAC.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:50 AM
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If that does not take care of it, you could be having a cold start injector issue(injector #9) If that is the case, IMO I would think about going to the 89 ARAP chip as it doesn't use a cold start injector and is a much better program.
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If you do pull it to clean it DO NOT turn the pintle,if you do it will mess up the setting, Just get a tooth brush and some good carb cleaner for cleaning. It can be removed without removing the TB, you need an open end wrench for it. The IAC is a carbon magnet-you'll see.

Oh BTW here's a great web site to help you.
http://www.dvcorvettes.com/clean_air_passage.htm

Good Luck

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSagan
If that does not take care of it, you could be having a cold start injector issue(injector #9) If that is the case, IMO I would think about going to the 89 ARAP chip as it doesn't use a cold start injector and is a much better program.
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Default Intake leak TPI 350

My 89 TPI 350 had a leak in the /intake manifold. Did basicly every thing recommended above. Started to tighten the intake manifold and behold half of the screws were loose. Could have saved a ton of $$$ if I would have started there. If you have a cross fire/ er miss fire, bless your heart! Any of you grus have a solution to my starting problem? Have a 89 that will start with a boost, run it for hours turn it off and try to start it again and it is as dead as a door nail. No lights, nothing. New battery, alt is cranking 14 volts. Everything looks good. Could I have a security brain box problem? or what. Acts like it just cuts everything off. Want to fix it so I can sell or trade it. Help!!! Wish you well JIM
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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I hope this is my problem too. How much is an IAC at GM dealerships?
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Any of you grus have a solution to my starting problem? Have a 89 that will start with a boost, run it for hours turn it off and try to start it again and it is as dead as a door nail. No lights, nothing. New battery, alt is cranking 14 volts. Everything looks good. Could I have a security brain box problem? or what. Acts like it just cuts everything off. Want to fix it so I can sell or trade it. Help!!! Wish you well JIM
1st I wouldn't consider myself a guru but, logically speaking, If you have a new battery and the battery is tested as good and your alt is putting out 14v your charging system should be good. There are a few things to consider here. Are your cables tight? Are you getting the voltage from the alt back to the battery? Have you had the battery tested at like say AutoZone or somewhere like that? They should also be able to test the alt at the same time without having to remove it.

I would have you check out the VATS system if you said that the lights and everything else works but won't crank or even engage the bendix on the starter.

Good luck and feel free to e-mail me if you want to kick around some ideas.

Mike.
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I hope this is my problem too. How much is an IAC at GM dealerships?
Your local parts jobber will sell you one for a lot less than GM. Be sure to know what pintle style you have
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