Clutch Issues Help!!
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Clutch Issues Help!!
Hello
I am losing my mind trying to get my 1985 4+3 going. I installed a rebuilt 4+3 and have not been able to get it working correctly. I thought I had a problem with the clutch hydraulic system. so I replaced the whole system. It seemed that there was minimal pressure in the system. I am now second guessing this. My question is, besides the hydraulic system what would prevent my clutch from engaging/disengaging. I cannot get the clutch to engage at all.
I have also noticed that my clutch pedal is somewhat lower than the brake pedal. Where exactly is the pedal meant to sit when disengaged? I am not sure if there is an issue there.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am losing my mind trying to get my 1985 4+3 going. I installed a rebuilt 4+3 and have not been able to get it working correctly. I thought I had a problem with the clutch hydraulic system. so I replaced the whole system. It seemed that there was minimal pressure in the system. I am now second guessing this. My question is, besides the hydraulic system what would prevent my clutch from engaging/disengaging. I cannot get the clutch to engage at all.
I have also noticed that my clutch pedal is somewhat lower than the brake pedal. Where exactly is the pedal meant to sit when disengaged? I am not sure if there is an issue there.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Team Owner
Joined: Aug 2000
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From: San Pedro CA
it can be a bitch to bleed...
and that sounds like the problem.
Get some Valvoline Synpower Brake Fluid. Great stuff.
This requires three people to do right!!!
1) One person inside the car.
2) One person under the car.
3) One person refilling the reservour.
Person #3 fills the reservour.
Person #2 removes the slave from the bell housing.
Person #1 pushes the clutch pedal and lets the fluid flow into the line.
Once the level drops some, person #3 then tops off the system. Person #2 then, using a long screwdriver or ratchet handle, applies resistance to the piston. This will force the piston back as far as it will go and then will force all fluid and air out of the slave.
Person #3 needs to monitor the fluid flow.
Person #1 needs to pump up the pedal, whilst person #2 applies resistance.
This process repeats itself 3 or 4 times, or however many it requires to get the the piston to come all the way out and so that no more bubble come out.
As you near the end, then bleed the slave. With the pedal down, release the bleeder and let it squirt out. More then likely it will only be fluid, but this will confirm things as being bled.
Reinstall the slave and pump up the slave and you are done.
Expect this to take 10 minutes or so.
and that sounds like the problem.
Get some Valvoline Synpower Brake Fluid. Great stuff.
This requires three people to do right!!!
1) One person inside the car.
2) One person under the car.
3) One person refilling the reservour.
Person #3 fills the reservour.
Person #2 removes the slave from the bell housing.
Person #1 pushes the clutch pedal and lets the fluid flow into the line.
Once the level drops some, person #3 then tops off the system. Person #2 then, using a long screwdriver or ratchet handle, applies resistance to the piston. This will force the piston back as far as it will go and then will force all fluid and air out of the slave.
Person #3 needs to monitor the fluid flow.
Person #1 needs to pump up the pedal, whilst person #2 applies resistance.
This process repeats itself 3 or 4 times, or however many it requires to get the the piston to come all the way out and so that no more bubble come out.
As you near the end, then bleed the slave. With the pedal down, release the bleeder and let it squirt out. More then likely it will only be fluid, but this will confirm things as being bled.
Reinstall the slave and pump up the slave and you are done.
Expect this to take 10 minutes or so.
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You should be able to just gravity bleed once the slave is off the bell housing and turned 180 degrees so the bleed fitting is on top. As Bogus says you do have to watch the reservior level, since it's so small it's easy to run dry.
Did you check inside the bell housing to make sure the mechanical part is working properly? Also when installing the slave, the rod sits in the fork a certain way, check that too
Did you check inside the bell housing to make sure the mechanical part is working properly? Also when installing the slave, the rod sits in the fork a certain way, check that too
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Pittsburgh Pirates PA
three stooges??
Originally Posted by bogus
it can be a bitch to bleed...
and that sounds like the problem.
Get some Valvoline Synpower Brake Fluid. Great stuff.
This requires three people to do right!!!
1) One person inside the car.
2) One person under the car.
3) One person refilling the reservour.
and that sounds like the problem.
Get some Valvoline Synpower Brake Fluid. Great stuff.
This requires three people to do right!!!
1) One person inside the car.
2) One person under the car.
3) One person refilling the reservour.
(or manny, moe and jack!!!)
