Punks on CF
My car is ordinary and all original. My point here is really that when I 'start the bidding' by asking $15,000, I absolutely do NOT expect to get that. I just happen to have common sense enough NOT to under bid myself.
Yes--there IS a butt for every seat. And there is someone out there looking for this particular car with all of the new parts I've installed on it. Someone like me who saw the first C4 rolling down the street and instantly fell in love. It was the absolute coolest-looking car on the4 road in 1984 and the only car without big, oversized chrome bumpers--and half as high as every other car on the road! "The best handling car on the planet", according to Road and Track, or Car and Driver, whomever made that quote.
That guy wants this car--and I have it close to fully restored and all original.
Just my opinion,
Dan

Now, I'll have a discussion here with you but you've got to be reasonable, okay?
Edit: Never mind. I just read your original for sale thread.
Last edited by Scoob; Jan 27, 2006 at 11:10 AM.





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I do care that, after what went on in the other thread, you felt the need to open this thread...what is your point?...
Maybe you think by rehashing the same crap in this thread you will prove your point?...Maybe you felt the need to stir up trouble?...either way, this thread is pointless in my opinion...
Sell your car, keep your car...whatever you like...but please stop this foolishness...
I do care that, after what went on in the other thread, you felt the need to open this thread...what is your point?...
Maybe you think by rehashing the same crap in this thread you will prove your point?...Maybe you felt the need to stir up trouble?...either way, this thread is pointless in my opinion...
Sell your car, keep your car...whatever you like...but please stop this foolishness...
I just hate punks. I'm venting. It worked too--punks came out of the woodwork to post!
I'm done...but the punks will continue to post.
...I didn't ever really want to sel the car anyway!
Punks! Ban me--go ahead. I'm gone.

evidently no one can read here: I NEVER EXPECTED TO GET $15 for this car.
OMG--how many times--in how many ways--do I have to say that?!

I think we all understand that. It seems to be you that has the issue here. If you price a car more than 10k over it's expected resale value then people are going to assume your smoking something real good. They ask you to past the pipe, but they ain't going to make an offer.
First -- what NADA were you looking at? I'm looking at the NADA site right now and "low retail" for an 84 (which is all any private party could reasonably expect to get) is about $7K. Now average retail (the "20 footer" you refer to) is $12.7K -- not $15-22K. And, for that price there's usually a 30 day warranty, dealer financing, etc. I put zero value on these services and actually prefer buying from private parties who have cared well for their cars (I assume that's you), but not everybody does.
Second -- What you spent to refurbish your car is almost irrelevant. As you know, it's what the market will bear. Go find the average asking price for 84's on Cars.com (median $8K), Autotrader.com (median $8.9K),or completed EBAY sales (median $4.5K -- HIGHEST a "mint" with 31K miles for $12.9K) and you'll see asking $15K for a 1984, even in outstanding shape, is swimming upstream and could actually keep a lot of legitimate potential buyers from even calling you.
Third -- just one data point but this example might help. I paid only $11K a year ago for a 1993 -- 1-owner, full service records, garage kept, excellent (but not show) condition, 6 speed with 84K miles. And, people tell me I probably overpaid a bit! Now I cannot imagine paying any more than that for a Crossfire with either 4+3 or automatic no matter how well restored - it's still a 22 year-old car with a lot of first-year issues.
Now I agree with you that Forum rules state we should not be slamming someone else's asking price -- the market will do that just fine. But, all the name calling doesn't help your case a bit.
Here's a thought. Sell your car, and then come back and tell us how much you got. It is to all our advantage that you get $15K for your car. But, don't be disappointed if you have to settle for much less.





I just hate punks. I'm venting. It worked too--punks came out of the woodwork to post!
I'm done...but the punks will continue to post.
...I didn't ever really want to sel the car anyway!
Punks! Ban me--go ahead. I'm gone.
I'm sorry that you feel you had to vent this way.
It's not a good idea to post something trying to incite others to flame you and start a fight. Please refrain from this in the future. I'm locking this thread now.
Thanks.
sssnot, if you feel that you should still be able to start this type of topic, feel free to PM me to discuss.












