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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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I don't need one right now, but if you guys ever put them on sale I will scoop one up for the future... I will certainly need a replacement sooner or later.

If I am not mistaken, didn't you put a GP on these towards the end of last year? Somewhere in the neighborhood of $460 plus $15 shipping?
Does GP stand for Good Price? Im not following you...? Towards the end of last year DTE was the owner of the Dynaspark product line, we transferred ownership on the first of the year. As far as i know they never changed the price.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Okay, we've got a grand re-opening sale plan... look for it
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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great good to hear........ where should we look ? Here on the forum or on your web site? Also whats the time frame look like?....

Oh yeah......... you should link your site somewhere in your profile

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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GP = Group Purchase....

So Im sorry, can we go over the benifits of going with the Dynaspark vs. Stock?

What it looks like is:
Longer internal component life
Easier engine starting
Higher engine RPM potential
Sustained HP over time
Engine can be washed
Greater resistance to moisture
Smoother running engine to redline
Increased maxiumum engine operation- 6800 RPM

What is the price differance from the Dynaspark and what you are trying to sell (rebuilding mine)?

Im in the process of a build up, and am exploring options.

So what do ya got?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
Because as long as the optical sensor was still good it would essentially be a used dynaspark with all the advantages...
Here's why I said what I did:
Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
we will turn it around to a dynaspark using your cap, rotor and optical sensor and the rest of the parts will be our new parts. Due to the fact that the life of the optical sensor has been compromised from already being ran in the junk distributor we will not be able to warranty any parts but the new ones we install.
I took that to mean that the used, stock sensor in your rebuilt Dyna could be questionable (makes sense). So, for me anyway, paying $350 for a new, GM Opti would be preferable to paying $350 for a "new" Dyna that has used GM parts inside.

As you said, the new stock GM Opti's are hard to beat, so for the same money that's the way I would go.

Thanks for giving us the chance to input, Eric. It shows that your company cares about what their customers (and potential customers) really want.

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can we go over the benifits of going with the Dynaspark vs. Stock?

What it looks like is:
Longer internal component life
Easier engine starting
Higher engine RPM potential
Sustained HP over time
Engine can be washed
Greater resistance to moisture
Smoother running engine to redline
Increased maxiumum engine operation- 6800 RPM
[ Only if the Opti being replaced is completely fubar'ed. Ian, you sound like an ad writer for the Tornado....!
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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No Larry, I was simply quoting thier website.....

http://www.dynaspark.net/
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rocco16
As you said, the new stock GM Opti's are hard to beat
I dont remember ever saying that... I think you might have misinterperated something i said... the optical sensor (not the distributor) is a good design and hard to beat (practically unbeatable, no reason to change it) The distributor hasnt changed and is still junk.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ian1992red
GP = Group Purchase....

So Im sorry, can we go over the benifits of going with the Dynaspark vs. Stock?

What is the price differance from the Dynaspark and what you are trying to sell (rebuilding mine)?

So what do ya got?
Cool, the group purchases will be made possible once we start our supporting vendor status...

The benefits of going with the Dynaspark vs. Stock... most of the reasons are listed on our website... some of the main things that come to mind immediatly would be the following:

1.)They are hand built, we take extra care in making sure that each distributor is assembled to exacting tolerances to ensure maximum performance and reliability.

2.)We offer a 12 month warranty on manufacturing defects and component defects.

3.)Every dynaspark distributor is rebuildable in the unlikely event that anything would need replaced.

4.)Our Distributors do not leak, at all... They are triple sealed. Our distributors are sealed so tightly that if the vacuum harnesses are installed improperly, and it creates a negative pressure inside the distributor, the cap will suck down onto the rotor and they will grind each other apart before it developes a leak.

5.)Our housings and caps are strategically cross vented to ensure maximum potential accuracy up to 6800 rpm. Whenever a spark is connected in a regular atmosphere, it will create a toxic gas that can corrode metal and some plastics over time, the cross venting eliminates these gasses to ensure longer component life.

6.)When you compare a dyno sheet of a car with an oem distributor and then with a Dynaspark, there is a noticable difference. The curve is much smoother, I cannot prove it right now but I think that it would be safe to assume that this provides a more 'crisp' response when you open the throttle at higher rpms as well as a smoother running engine all the way up to redline with sustained horsepower.

7.)I have been told that people have claimed horsepower gains from installing a dynaspark. We are in the works with a before and after dyno sheet that will either accept or deny these claims, we'll see...

8.)When you are the proud owner of a dynaspark distributor, you have the option of calling our 24 hour phone for customer and tech support. I will most likely be the one to answer it, sometimes I dont hear it when Im sleeping but I try to answer it whenever humanly possible. If we happen to miss your call, we will return your call (if you ask us to in voicemail) ASAP. We try our best to make you happy.



The price difference between the rebuild idea and the brand new one is $250... I dont think we are going to do that though, it was just an idea... The thing that I saw with that was that if you have an optical sensor that works and is functioning properly, it should be okay inside a dynaspark, the main thing that causes premature failure is that faulty wiring harness and the bad seals. Once its contaminated with either water/coolant/dust you name it, thats when it fails... its an instant thing, its not like a used optical sensor is doomed from then on... we just wouldnt be able to warranty it for obvious reasons, and we would also test the distributor before we used the parts to build it and after it is built... it seems like an okay idea but if you guys dont like it then its final

Im open to ideas for the sale, please be within reason on the price, I want to know what you guys think is fair for both of us.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
Does GP stand for Good Price? Im not following you...? Towards the end of last year DTE was the owner of the Dynaspark product line, we transferred ownership on the first of the year. As far as i know they never changed the price.
They ran a Group Purchase on several forums at the end of last year for $459 + $15 shipping.

Here is a link to one listing:
Carolina F-Body Club

Would you be able to repeat something like that?
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FYI: We did *not* offer or authorize that GP on that forum back then, nor on any of the other internet boards he spammed with it... The original poster tried without ever clearing it with DTE first, therefore the GP never happened. That person was trying to complete our minimum unit buy-in at that time and was trying to do it by holding an invalid GP that was never authorized by DTE in the first place, that is why he stated that no one will ever see those low prices again....because it was a bogus GP from the beginning.


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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoTech Engineering
FYI: We did *not* offer or authorize that GP on that forum back then, nor on any of the other internet boards he spammed with it... The original poster tried without ever clearing it with DTE first, therefore the GP never happened. That person was trying to complete our minimum unit buy-in at that time and was trying to do it by holding an invalid GP that was never authorized by DTE in the first place, that is why he stated that no one will ever see those low prices again....because it was a bogus GP from the beginning.
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My bad... I was simply doing a google search when I stumbled on the thread. Hope I didn't cause any confusion.

Still, it would be nice to get some sort of GP together.
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No worries, Dynaspark will take care of you.


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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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"..as you said, the stock Opti is hard to beat..."

Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
I dont remember ever saying that... I think you might have misinterperated something i said... the optical sensor (not the distributor) is a good design and hard to beat (practically unbeatable, no reason to change it) The distributor hasnt changed and is still junk.
Perhaps I did misinterpret this:
Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the oem cap, rotor... and optical sensor for that matter... if you knew what I knew, you wouldnt spend the extra money (for the MSD)... Eric
Are you saying that the stock housing is junk? I mean, how many components are there to an Opti, anyway?
Keep the info on your new development coming...if my stock Opti ever goes bad, I like to know about all the options.

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No Larry, I was simply quoting thier website.....
That explains why it sounded like a (Tornado) advertisment.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
4.)Our Distributors do not leak, at all... They are triple sealed. Our distributors are sealed so tightly that if the vacuum harnesses are installed improperly, and it creates a negative pressure inside the distributor, the cap will suck down onto the rotor and they will grind each other apart before it developes a leak.

Well, that sure gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

5.)Our housings and caps are strategically cross vented to ensure maximum potential accuracy up to 6800 rpm. Whenever a spark is connected in a regular atmosphere, it will create a toxic gas that can corrode metal and some plastics over time, the cross venting eliminates these gasses to ensure longer component life.
So, which are they: sealed or vented?

Man, Eric, that whole post sounds suspicious to me. I had always considered Dynaspark to be a straight-up company, but this has me wondering.
Maximum potential accuracy?
" po·ten·tial ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-tnshl) adj.
Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem."

"safe to assume..", "I've been told..."

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Not bashing your company, Eric, just saying that some of the words you used always raise a red flag for me.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rocco16
Are you saying that the stock housing is junk? I mean, how many components are there to an Opti, anyway?
Keep the info on your new development coming...if my stock Opti ever goes bad, I like to know about all the options.

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The stock housing is junk, the white rinite insulator ring is a big problem as well, the seals are weak and inconsistent. The two bolt bearing retainer on the gen 2 barely provides enough retention for half of the bearing... the wiring harness isnt weather tight... i could go on and on about how the oems are junk but i hope that you just take my word for it...

as far as a group purchase goes... We have the potential to go down to 450 if there are enough buyers... the price would be determined by how many buyers commit... i think i need to be a supporting vendor before we do that though... soon...
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rocco16
So, which are they: sealed or vented?

Man, Eric, that whole post sounds suspicious to me. I had always considered Dynaspark to be a straight-up company, but this has me wondering.
Maximum potential accuracy?
" po·ten·tial ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-tnshl) adj.
Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem."

"safe to assume..", "I've been told..."

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Not bashing your company, Eric, just saying that some of the words you used always raise a red flag for me.

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Sealed and vented larry, sealed from outside contaminates, vented by your motor.

Concerning the cap sucking down onto the rotor, that only happens if the customer installs their distributor wrong, it works perfectly if you install it properly, continue to feel warm and fuzzy.

Vocabulary isnt one of my strong points Larry but distributors are, potential is the best word i could think of.

"Ive been told"... yeah, i have... ive never personally witnessed a before and after dyno comparison, therefore i dont want to tell you that it does make horsepower when i can't back it up... whats the problem?

If the words i use raise a red flag with you then i apologize, Im here to answer questions as best i can and i try to reach my potential in doing so. If you are suspicious then look at the facts, dynaspark distributors have been retailed for 2.5 years with outstanding results and i think that speaks for itself, i think its time to lower the red flag.
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Eric, your affable response and willingness to work on all aspects of dialogue, new products and even group purchases is much appreciated . By me, as well as others I am sure!

Keep up the good work.
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450 gives me a warm fuzzy feeling
1 down
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unofficially of course

Take care of buisness.....
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