Hello All.Forum Members

I was reading a lot about the filter kit for the 4+3 and the rubber seal"garmet" issues.

whats the best place to order this filter kit with a good quality rubber seal "garmet" included in kit that wont have any fitment issues?

Dealer does not supply this filter anymore discontinued

Im looking to change out the filter in my 4+3 and dont want any issue with rubber seal "garmet "and hope to find one with everything I need included besides Eckler.(fitment issues i hear with rubber seal"garmet")

Can someone recommend a good place to buy this kit..Id like to order one ASAP.

Thanks Forum

 

No one changed their filter????
Anyone?????

 

I am not aware of the grommet issue you mentioned. The kit I bought from Ecklers or Madvet was complete and the grommet must have been fine. It did include a cork gasket that I didn't use -- preferred The Right Stuff.

One thing to be certain to do when putting new fluid in, is to rotate the rear wheels to fill the entire system. Fill to plug hole, rotate rear wheels for about a minute, add more fluid to fill hole.

 

I bought one a few years back from ZIP and it came with everything needed.

Someone here posted a while back that the Ford C4 automatic also uses the same filter. You might check with your local auto parts store and see if they carry it. If you can't find a gasket (factory did not use one) you can always make one from gasket paper. You can buy a roll at any good auto parts store as well, very inexpensive and handy to keep around.

Good luck... GUSTO

 

Today 09:01 PM
GUSTO14 I bought one a few years back from ZIP and it came with everything needed.

Someone here posted a while back that the Ford C4 automatic also uses the same filter. You might check with your local auto parts store and see if they carry it. If you can't find a gasket (factory did not use one) you can always make one from gasket paper. You can buy a roll at any good auto parts store as well, very inexpensive and handy to keep around.

Good luck... GUSTO


Today 08:54 PM
Chatman I am not aware of the grommet issue you mentioned. The kit I bought from Ecklers or Madvet was complete and the grommet must have been fine. It did include a cork gasket that I didn't use -- preferred The Right Stuff.

One thing to be certain to do when putting new fluid in, is to rotate the rear wheels to fill the entire system. Fill to plug hole, rotate rear wheels for about a minute, add more fluid to fill hole.


Thanks Guys

I order the kit from Eckler's and i will be picking up some of that THE RIGHT STUFF

The one thing i heard about the eckler kit is the garmmet isnt the greastest quality but i guess that will make you change it more offend.

Chatman how long has the garmmet lasted so far for you?
And 2 more questions about how much fuilded did it take to fill the OD unit up and did you use ATF Dextron II ??

Thanks Again

 

I'm pretty sure that it is close to 2 quarts total. I believe that you can put in a little over 1, rotate wheels and then add about 1/2 more. But don't take any of these recollections as accurate. I did my replacement about 2K miles ago, not long. Did use the Dexron II.
When you use The Right Stuff, let it sit overnight. It says you can use it right away, but that always leads to a leak for me. Take it easy on the bolts, they don't take much torque. If they do strip, go to a slightly longer one from the hardware store.

 

The grommet included with the Ecklers kit is garbage. It will turn to mush after being in ATF for awhile. Mine split and allowed the pump to suck air, causing the overdrive to cut out.



A higher quality buna-N or maybe silicone grommet should be used. I'm no fluid expert. Repzard, check your PM.

 

Here's what info I came up with on the grommet. FWIW.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1675325

Good Luck!

 

After changing the stock filter you should consider installing a B & M External Canister Filter.Gives alot more capacity and filters so much better.

 

Any Pictures of this filter unit
Sounds kinda cool

 

 

I'll take some for you guys. I bought mine from Jegs or Summit
Be back to you.

 

see www.jegs.com

P/n:771-10678 Perma Cool Auxiliary Trans Filter.
(Mine was a B&M)
I just spliced in the cooling lines at the Radiator.Mounted it on left side of radiator.

 

Another victim. One of your local parts stores that you already have to go to will have it for about $5-$10, and zero shipping.

 

According to the CarQuest website's store locator page, there is a CarQuest store at 30 Millbury St in Worcester. Go there and ask for part # 85926 This is a tranny filter for a Ford FMX auto tranny found in late 60's to early 70's Cougars, Torino's and some F150's. Should cost around 6 to 8 dollars plus any sales taxes.

Send a PM to forum member ACECO to find out if he has some extra grommets to sell. After doing some research, he bought a bunch and I got a half-dozen from him. Read the link he posted above .

Once you get the pan off (loosen all of the bolts and drop the deep part of the pan first to minimize spilling), clean it completely and make sure the pan rails are straight and smooth. There should be a magnet in the pan so remove that and clean it too.

You can use non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner to remove all traces of gasket or old RTV sealant from the pan and the tranny case rail. After cleaning, wipe some acetone on the surfaces to remove any traces of the brake parts cleaner. The rails must be clean and dry when you apply the RTV.

Remove the cooling lines from the case and use low pressure air (5-10psi) with a nozzle to blow out the cooling lines. There's not a lot of fluid in the lines, but the old fluid should come out. Parts stores have a pressurized can of solvent for just this purpose if you don't have an air compressor.

A good RTV black sealant (The Right Stuff) will work much better than a cork gasket. Apply according to directions and re-install the pan (after you install the new filter and grommet ). Be careful with tightening the pan bolts. They don't have to be too tight, but do need to be even all around. My 87 FSM says 6-8 ft-lbs.

It takes about 2 quarts of Dexron II/III to refill. Once you add fluid to the pan, rotate a rear tire for a couple of minutes to let the OD pump move fluid into the cooling lines. Top off after that and you are done.

 

I put a drain plug in mine, Here is a link chronicling the day.

http://www.theforumlounge.com/thread...ification.html

I'd post it up over here but I can't post pics

 

That unit looks pretty good.
Question is that a regular oil filter it uses??
If so is there a replacement filter that fits it like a fram, AC Delco and so on..That you know of??? So you dont have to order it from Jegs when you need a replacement???

Thanks for the info CAJUN on this unit may buy one after i get tranny fixed or done.



Repzard

 

well i guess we all learn from our mistakes but now i know where to get one i guess

Thanks Again CC

 

[QUOTE=Repzard;1559881926]That unit looks pretty good.
Question is that a regular oil filter it uses??
If so is there a replacement filter that fits it like a fram, AC Delco and so on..That you know of??? So you dont have to order it from Jegs when you need a replacement???

Thanks for the info CAJUN on this unit may buy one after i get tranny fixed or done.

I believe it's a Fram PH8 Ford filter. Yes,they can be purchased locally.