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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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My interior lights in my 84 stay on all the time. Regardless of if the doors/hatch are open or closed. Checked the door and hatch pins and they seem to be ok. Any idears?
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Interior lights turn on when the door jamb switch is closed circuit (door open). If the door jamb switch is shorted to ground, your lights will stay on all the time. Also, the door jamb switch goes to the courtesy light timer and a defective timer can also keep the lights on all the time. Unplug the courtesy light timer and use your ohmeter to determine if the door jamb switch is closed circuit (to ground) with the door closed. The wire on the timer socket that goes to the jamb switches is white.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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Interior lights turn on when the door jamb switch is closed circuit (door open). If the door jamb switch is shorted to ground, your lights will stay on all the time. Also, the door jamb switch goes to the courtesy light timer and a defective timer can also keep the lights on all the time. Unplug the courtesy light timer and use your ohmeter to determine if the door jamb switch is closed circuit (to ground) with the door closed. The wire on the timer socket that goes to the jamb switches is white.

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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:42 AM
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Not sure about the 84, but look at the door ajar switch.

I ordered a door ajar switch for my 92 ($15). Went to install and noticed the new switch and the old switch looked different. The new switch has a "tab" in the middle that stuck out and the old one looked like the "tab" was pushed all the way in. I used a flathead screwdriver and pulled the "tab" out a little on the old one and closed the door. The lights went out. I think the same switch was used on all the C4's.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Where is the courtsey light timer located on an 84
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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There were some threads on bypassing and repairing the timer, maybe a search of the Archives will yield those.
Here is the location from my 86 manual, good chance it's where yours is.
http://members.shaw.ca/agent86/Court...20Location.pdf
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Not trying to insult your inteligence, but did you rotate the dimmer ****? Seems as though to simple stuff gets overlooked because it's..well....simple.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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I was thinking the same thing.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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First thing I checked was the dimmer switch That isnt the culprit. This timer thing sounds to most likely be it. Is this near the ECM???
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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yes near the ecm at least it is on my 86, not an easy task getting to it, it's taped to a main wiring harness right behind the bread box, I never could find it until I decided to take the bread box out and replace it with a panel, when I did that there it was right in front of the ecm. in my case the interior lights worked irratic and replacing the timer fixed the problem. Good luck getting to it though, maybe some one has a better way than mine.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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I hate electrical problems. Get this, in my case, the courtesy lights would be on at all times they were supposed to be off, and vice versa. The cargo lamps would always stay on but would vary in intensity. It ended up being because the orange wire that provides power to the courtesy lights was shorted to ground. Meanwhile the cargo lamp circuit, whenever it wasn't grounded by the courtesy lamp switch, was travelling backwards through the courtesy lamp circuit on its way to ground, this powering the courtesy lamps at exactly the time that they weren't supposed to be powered. All this because I let a wire slip behind an interior trim screw and get pierced and grounded out by the screw.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Two more questions!

Will I need to remove the ecm to get to the timer, and Is this part readily available?? P/N????
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by My90n84Vettes
Two more questions!

Will I need to remove the ecm to get to the timer, and Is this part readily available?? P/N????
No. And No. Most have had to repair their exsisting timer. I believe I have a schematic of the timer from another forum if interested.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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I found a new one on e-bay the part is discontinued but try your local dealer they may have one on a shelf somewhere the pn is gm-10098435 timer assm/84-87.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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I got that sucker out! Now just need to locate a new one or try to frix the one I have. Thanks for your help everyone!!!! Much Appreciated.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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I still have the old one I pulled out of mine if you need it for parts let me know and I'll send it your way
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