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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deerra
My 92 sat for a week (been sick).
Tried to start - battery completely dead. No previous battery problems. Put it on my charger and the charger doesn't register. Great I think, now the charger is dead. Put the charger back on the boat battery and charger works. WTF!! I put my 2 amp Battery Tender on the Vette and same thing. No lights. Not charging. Put the Battery Tender on my bike and it lights up.
So it seems the battery won't take a charge. Is that possible?
Or, could the battery be okay and I have some other issue?
Prior to this the car started and ran fine.
Any help or suggestions would be appreicated.
...you might check to be sure you don't have a "load" somewhere.

Although a battery cell can short, it isn't often the entire battery - all six cells at once - will short while it sits unused for only a week. I'd suspect something may be running? I've had symptoms like yours occur when a dome light or the radio was accidentally left on for as little as a week.

If you put a volt meter across the terminals and it reads "zero" or close to it, the battery may just be seriously discharged. It may or may not be possible to revive it when left on a charger for a period of time (2-3days), but in any case it will have suffered considerable loss of life, even if it does "wake up" and take a charge.

My wife's C3 has a light in the cubby hole behind the passenger seat. One time it didn't get closed tight, and the light was on, but could not be seen. (Does your refrigerator light go out when you close the door?). The result was a stone dead battery - read about 2-1/2 volts, and the charger wouldn't initially charge the battery. However, after leaving the charger on for a couple days, eventually the battery revived enough to take a charge, but we ended up replacing the battery a couple months later as it just wasn't the same after that - slow turning starter, etc. (The battery was the one that was in the car when she got it, so it's history was unknown.)

My point is, once you have a battery up to snuff (12.5 volts steady state), use an ammeter and see if there is load exceeding a few milliamperes ("keep alive" current for the computer). Anything approaching a ampere is a sure sign of a problem and it needs to be isolated and repaired.

Then again...I may be way off base. But, for my lack of mechanical knowledge relative to that of others here on Vettes, 'lectric enjuneerin' is my "thing", and that is what runs thru my mind after reading your post.

P.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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I noticed that the battery charging rate on my 94 dash gauge was approaching the shaded area the last couple of weeks, but the car started okay. I suspected that the battery was going, but hoped to keep it until next spring when it comes out of storage. Then Saturday, when I installed the auxillary hard top for fall driving before the snows hit and subsequent storage, I left the doors open to attach the bolts on the top to the car, and the car would not start - not energy volts from the battery to start. Put the charger on and it would only charge at half the rate it would do if the battery were just run down, and not PbSO4'ed up on the plates. Car started after one hour of charging at the slower rate. So I put the car in the garage, put the battery tender on it to keep some kind of a charge in it, and today I am off the the store to purchase a new battery. The
C4s for some reason can drain a battery over a two week period. It was an excellent recommendation to pin point the amp draw with the meter. I plan to do this after I install it, but before I hook it up. From what I have read on the forum, it is not a great idea to rely on the alternator to charge the battery all the time, so I keep the battery tender on when the car is not driven daily. The forum posts say the C4 alternator is not an especially well made unit; this was news to me. I don't seem to have this trouble with the C5, but I also keep a tender on it too, as I alternate driving them every several weeks. But I have left the interior lights on for about 10 hours and the C5 would not start. Had it jumped started and no problems since. The dash battery gauge shows notmal charging rate. And there is such a wide spread of opinions on the forums as to which battery is best. I know one of my criteria is that the battery must only come with side posts and not the top posts. There is just too little room between the positive top post and metal, even with the protective cap on the post.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Purchased a Gold Dura Last from Autozone this morning for $79 after core refund at the recommendations of the forum members. It is made by Johnson Controls and has a thicker case than the ones made by Exide. Checked the Die Hard gold, also made by Johnson, but was $100; the standard Die Hard for $79 is made by Exide. Checked the Autolite battery at Checker, but it is also made by Exide. Decided on the Dura Last Gold with no top posts. Have to install it Saturday, then take the core back for my $13 refund.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jfb
When you install the new battery, only connect the positive cable to the positive battery terminal. Then set you multimeter to measure amps, usually you have to unplug the positive test lead into a socket on the meter marked, "amps". Then connect the negative test lead to the negative battery terminal and connect the positive test lead to the negative cable. An ammeter is always connected in series with the circuit you are measuring the current in. When you make connection, the courtesy lights will come on and you will have to wait for them to time out, or if you don't want to wait, then unplug the courtesy light fuse. Read the current on the meter, GM says leakage current must not be over 50 milliamps, that is .05 amps.
If you have excessive leakage current, then you will need to find out what is drawing current so that you don't ruin another battery. Don't connect the new battery until you determine that leakage current isn't excessive.
Update on my battery issue. Took the battery to Sears and testing showed it was a goner. Completely dead.
Got a new battery, top of the line and as suggested, tested for a drain. Happy to report no drain. Put everything back together and good to go. My thanks for all the help and especially JFB about testing the battery.
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