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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by floridamale
I riveted mine I dont like using screws on thin plastic
I riveted mine too.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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To add to why they are riveted there is downward & upward pressure on the windows sweeps as the motion of the glass runs against it, the factory rivets will hold much better and not cause the motion to elongate a screw hole in the upper door lip.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by floridamale
To add to why they are riveted there is downward & upward pressure on the windows sweeps as the motion of the glass runs against it, the factory rivets will hold much better and not cause the motion to elongate a screw hole in the upper door lip.
That isn't even close to being accurate, lol. There will be absolutely NO difference if you use a rivet or a screw and you're never going to see either one with the door panel on.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by C4boy
That isn't even close to being accurate, lol. There will be absolutely NO difference if you use a rivet or a screw and you're never going to see either one with the door panel on.
Do dont think there is any fricton cause by lowering & raising the window look at the movement hold your hand on the sweep tell me you dont feel any window travel. When the window is down the sweep completely covers the top of the glass when you raise the window the sweep flexes away with the upward motion this action produces movement in the sweep. Never did i say any thing about screews or riviots being visble. You cant secure a screew on the back side of the door pannel & tighten it. I guess there is a right way to do things then there is the other way

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Dude, it's a piece of rubber that wipes water off your window, it's not a connecting rod. There's like 8 or 10 clips on the wipes that press down into the door, it's not going anywhere. And yes, there is a place to secure a sheet metal screw. It's the metal tab inside the door that the original rivet went through.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Go with O.E.M. I think it makes installation a little easier.

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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I looked at my 89, and it looks like there are only 2 rivets when the PO put in aftermarket. One close by the door hinge side, and one in the middle. I didn't see one at the outer edge of the door.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I looked at my 89, and it looks like there are only 2 rivets when the PO put in aftermarket. One close by the door hinge side, and one in the middle. I didn't see one at the outer edge of the door.
I think there are 3 rivets in the top the PO may of left one out you might have to remove the top of the door jam rubber to see the other one
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Z51JEFF
Aftermarket crap in NEVER as good as OEM stuff.
Never say never. My door panels are aftermarket, (Corvette America). They are much better than OEM.

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by floridamale
I think there are 3 rivets in the top the PO may of left one out you might have to remove the top of the door jam rubber to see the other one
That's the one I'm seeing, the door jam, and one in the middle, and that's it.

Though, I don't see how you would get to the one that I'm assuming is supposed to be by the outer door handle area? As my glass doesn't roll down far enough.

Though, whoever the PO had do this didn't know what they were doing. As the glass has alot of play in it when you push it out and in. I'm thinking they didn't adjust the antirattle things out far enough to keep the glass pressed on the outer door seal.

I do have some scratches on the outside of the glass by the mirrors. I'm guessing that would be from the outer seal?
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
That's the one I'm seeing, the door jam, and one in the middle, and that's it.

Though, I don't see how you would get to the one that I'm assuming is supposed to be by the outer door handle area? As my glass doesn't roll down far enough.

Though, whoever the PO had do this didn't know what they were doing. As the glass has alot of play in it when you push it out and in. I'm thinking they didn't adjust the antirattle things out far enough to keep the glass pressed on the outer door seal.

I do have some scratches on the outside of the glass by the mirrors. I'm guessing that would be from the outer seal?
Inside the door there are felt covered tabs that allow the window in or out movement for adjustment they could be worn so the felt is gone causing a metal piece to rub on your glass kind of common on older cars
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by floridamale
Inside the door there are felt covered tabs that allow the window in or out movement for adjustment they could be worn so the felt is gone causing a metal piece to rub on your glass kind of common on older cars
I see the anti-rattle tabs on the inside of the door, 2 of them. Are there some on the outside of the door? I didn't see any. My scratches are on the outside of the glass.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I see the anti-rattle tabs on the inside of the door, 2 of them. Are there some on the outside of the door? I didn't see any. My scratches are on the outside of the glass.
Not sure but its rubing somewhere if you have scratches the rubber sweeps should't cause that
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by floridamale
Not sure but its rubing somewhere if you have scratches the rubber sweeps should't cause that
I do remember at bulletin about outer window scratches for the ZR1.

Whenever I pull the outer window seals, I'll look to see if I can figure out where the scratches came from.
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Here I am, resurrecting an ancient threat (good info, though). So my original owner 1991 (always garaged, 20K original miles) is starting to show some age with the dreaded cracked and deteriorating outer window seals. In 2023, access to OEM parts seems to be impossible. Is there a consensus about who is making the hands-down best aftermarket parts? I see alot of horror stories about cheap materials that don't line up or last. I'm ready to tackle the job, but who is the best manufacturer in 2023? Thanks everyone!!!
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I bought a pair from Mid America Motor Works for my 93 Convertible. They are aftermarket ones but worked great.
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Purchased mine from Ecklers and have been happy with them.

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