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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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I used to know how to do this but lost the info. How to you tap into the ALDL to read the light to know why you have a check engine light on in a 1985
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Jump terminals A and B on the ALDL
Turn the key on but don't start the car.
Watch the Check Engine Light flash.

You should get 3 "12" codes at the beginning, then any stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes, then 3 "12" codes at the end.

A "12" code would be as follows: Flash, pause, flash flash....followed by a long pause. That will repeat 3 times. Then for example, if you had a "34" codes stored, it would be: flash flash flash, pause, flash flash flash flash.

Damn....I'm sure getting tired of all this flashing.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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thanks

where is a list of what the codes mean?
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The factory service manual has them, as does the Haynes manual. Here's a web site that outlines the procedure, has the codes (page 4 & 5) and gives you an idea where to start looking for each code.

Diagnostic Trouble Codes.

Hope this helps. Just remember that just because a particular code is set doesn't mean the corresponding sensor has failed. Always test your parts before replacing, and check all associated wiring, harness connections, etc. before condemning the sensor. Nothing sucks worse than spending $100 for a part that can't be returned only to discover that it was a faulty connection at a harness causing the problem. And if it's a throttle position sensor, always try adjusting the sensor and resetting the code before replacing it.

Good luck.
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AWESOME, exactly what i needed, thanks!!!!
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Great link Friz! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Frizlefrak
Jump terminals A and B on the ALDL

You should get 3 "12" codes at the beginning, then any stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes, then 3 "12" codes at the end.
I am having an issue. I seem to be getting a never-ending series of "12" codes. I only get the blink. blink blink. on non-stop repeat.

Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by mc-emac
I am having an issue. I seem to be getting a never-ending series of "12" codes. I only get the blink. blink blink. on non-stop repeat.

Thanks for the help!
Wouldn't a bunch of 12s (I think 6 total?) at a time indicate that the ECM doesn't see anything wrong?
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Yes.
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Thank you, gents!

I guess I need to diagnose using another method then. I've been trying to find info on the forum, but I have been going down a lot of rabbit holes.

It is a recent purchase, so I do not have a baseline for comparison, but it starts slow, blows smoke on startup, and exhibits generally rough performance.
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Originally Posted by mc-emac
it starts slow, blows smoke on startup, and exhibits generally rough performance.
1. Check fuel pressure during start
2. Valve guide seals, if blue smoke
3. General tune up? Or in conjunction w/"1.", perhaps it's time for injectors.
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I appreciate the lightning speed replies! Thank you so much.

Full tune up including new cap 20k miles ago...7 years ago. The plugs look rusted on the outside, but I haven't pulled one yet.
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You could do a visual on the injectors by pulling the fuel rail, leave it hooked up, crank the engine and watch them all fire. Look for same-looking, nice symmetrical cones of spray.

You can also buy a tool that fires each injector for a specific period of time, you watch the fuel pressure drop to see flow rate of each injector. This test doesn't confirm spray pattern/quality.
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One more question: it's not just a series of 6 12s. I get a perpetual blink - I think I counted about 50 12s. Is that normal?
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
You could do a visual on the injectors by pulling the fuel rail, leave it hooked up, crank the engine and watch them all fire. Look for same-looking, nice symmetrical cones of spray.

You can also buy a tool that fires each injector for a specific period of time, you watch the fuel pressure drop to see flow rate of each injector. This test doesn't confirm spray pattern/quality.
Or he can send it to FIC and they will clean and test it and replace the basket filters and you will know the spray pattern and volume.
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Originally Posted by mc-emac
One more question: it's not just a series of 6 12s. I get a perpetual blink - I think I counted about 50 12s. Is that normal?
Normal. it'll go on....until the battery in the car goes dead, or you pull the jumper out.
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